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Re: Financing at Credit Union [delta737h] by fezo
Sep 16, 2007 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: delta737h (Sep 16, 2007 12:52 pm)

"ooops... I'm sorry."
 
OK. We'll let it go this time....
 
Yeah - another poster got a question sandwiched in there. That happens a lot.
 
Your question is sort of out of my league.
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Re: Credit Scores and Vehicle Financing Forum [delta737h] by joel0622
Sep 17, 2007 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: delta737h (Sep 16, 2007 9:07 am)

Here it is in very simplistic terms. I am not able to break it down into Arabic equations like you
 
It depends on the lender but the norm is called a 75/25 split.
 
If the bank rate is 8% and I charge 9% I make a 1 point spread and I get 75% of the 1 point, the bank gets the other 25%. If the customers pays off the loan in the first 90 days then I get charged back the 75%, on the 91st day there are no charge backs
 
For Example
 
$25000 loan at a buy rate of 7% 60 months. That works out to $4701 finance charge.
 
If I charge 8% in order to make a point that raises the finance charges to $5414.60
 
The difference in the finance charge is $713 and the dealer gets 75% of that which means the dealer makes $535 in reserve.
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Re: Financing at Credit Union [featherz] by master_ryu
Sep 17, 2007 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: featherz (Sep 16, 2007 1:33 pm)

Thanks for the response, featherz. You mean to tell me that the dealership threatened that they will not accept the check if it's not in their hands in 3 days? Crazy.
 
By the way, I guess this is for everyone. How good of a rate is 5.75 % for four years? Thanks.
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Re: Financing at Credit Union [master_ryu] by volvomax
Sep 17, 2007 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: master_ryu (Sep 17, 2007 9:52 am)

Not crazy at all.
Dealership wants to get paid.
If they submit you to a regular lender,and you are approved,the contract is overnighted to the bank,and the dealer is paid electronically.
3 days tops.
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Re: Credit Scores and Vehicle Financing Forum [joel0622] by delta737h
Sep 17, 2007 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Sep 17, 2007 8:19 am)

joel,
 
Many thanks for your response. So basically, your dealership computes the reserves as a percentage of the Total Finance Charge Differential as follows...
  
1st. Compute the total lease charge based on the contract rate.
  
2nd. Compute the total lease charge based on the buy rate.
  
3rd. Subtract the amount in (2) from the amount in (1).
  
4th. Multiply the amount in (3) by 75% to determine the reserve payment.
 
My gut tells me that this is the most common method.
 
Once again; many thanks Joel.
 
John
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Re: Credit Scores and Vehicle Financing Forum [delta737h] by joel0622
Sep 17, 2007 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: delta737h (Sep 17, 2007 10:32 am)

My mistake, I was talking about a finance contract not a lease. A lease is a bit different.
 
On a lease if the lease rate is 2% and we charge 3% then I take the difference in the payment X the term X 75% and that is what we get.
 
For example if at 2% the lease payment is 350 for 36 and at 3% it is 365 for 36 I take the difference in payment of $15x365=$540x75%=$405 in dealer reserve.
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Re: Credit Scores and Vehicle Financing Forum [joel0622] by delta737h
Sep 17, 2007 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Sep 17, 2007 11:44 am)

Thanks for clarifying, Joel. How does the reserve level come into play? For example, a tiered rate structure might look something like this...
 
0.00150 + 0% reserves
 
0.00165 + 1% reserves
 
0.00180 + 2% reserves
 
etc.
 
John
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Re: Credit Scores and Vehicle Financing Forum [joel0622] by oldfarmer50
Sep 17, 2007 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Sep 17, 2007 8:19 am)

"...on the 91st day there are no charge backs..."
 
So if I'm basicly a cash buyer but I need to finance though the dealer to get the rebate I can pay the whole thing off after 91 days without screwing you over,right?

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