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Re: Secession [turnten] by andys120
Jun 19, 2009 (2:59 am)
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Replying to: turnten (Jun 17, 2009 12:03 pm)

According to BBC Sports the FOTA Teams are going to secede and run their own series.
 
If the major teams stick together there isn't much Ecclestone and Moseley can do about it, there's no substitutes for Ferrari, Renault, Brawn , McLaren, BMW-Sauber, Toyota and Red Bull/Toro Rosso.
 
BBC says the FIA had set a 19 June deadline for five teams - Brawn, BMW-Sauber, McLaren, Renault and Toyota - to convert their provisional entries into unconditional ones or risk being excluded..
 
 I just saw Bernie Ecclestone on BBC News (via BBC America and he said "Talk to Max." If that's really his attitude there will be a split and that's probably a good thing. They say you should be careful what you wish for but the present regime has killed popular races at Indy, Spa, Montreal and even Silverstone (F1's birthplace) in favor of poorly attended races in places like Kuala Lumpur, Bahrain and Istanbul.
 
IMO they don't know what they are doing. It's absurd to have no F1 races in North America, still the biggest auto market in the world.
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Re: Secession [andys120] by jlbl
Jun 19, 2009 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Jun 19, 2009 2:59 am)

Max Moxley may have pulled the rope too much this time. He is about to throw not only the ball but the players out of the field. And this time even the magic referee (Ecclestone) could be not able to balance the row. Lately, Ecclestone himself has envisaged F1 more as showbussines rather than sport. Looking more for 'new' money and exotic places, as you mentioned.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Secession [jlbl] by andys120
Jun 19, 2009 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Jun 19, 2009 5:14 am)

And this time even the magic referee (Ecclestone) could be not able to balance the row.
 
I was really taken aback by Bernie's remark to the BBC Reporter this AM. Instead of just saying "no comment". He said "Ask Max". Bernie's greed mechanism must be atrophying with age. If the makers and all the top flight drivers walk he loses control of the sport and a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Ecclestone is a ringer for Mongomery Burns of The Simpsons?
 
Bernie>
 
Burns>
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Re: Secession [andys120] by jlbl
Jun 19, 2009 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: andys120 (Jun 19, 2009 9:32 am)

LOL!
 
I cannot help but posting this:

I fully appreciate that this is a Formula One blog but it is also about motorsport and this footage from the Circuit de Catalunya last weekend is some of the best motorsport I've ever seen. Ed Gorman, London Times.


MotoGP World Championship; Barcelona Racing; Valentino Rossi (ITA) vs. Jorge Lorenzo (SPA)

  
Enjoy the Italian atmosphere. And, you may look as well at Jorge Lorenzo putting the Barça Flag on his back at the end of the race.
  
Regards,
Jose
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bye bye Bernie? by steve_ HOST
Jun 19, 2009 (10:19 pm)
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Formula One Teams Association Announces New Series of Its Own
 
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Re: bye bye Bernie? [steve_] by jlbl
Jun 20, 2009 (2:43 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 19, 2009 10:19 pm)

Specialized journalists commenting on Saturday practice of Silverstone Grand Prix said that rumor in the padlock is FOTA strongly awaits Max Moxley will be forced to give up his FIA leader position in a top FIA meeting which will be held next Thursday. Ecclestone should also share F1 management power with FOTA to prevent FOTA launching of its own Racing Series.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: bye bye Bernie? [jlbl] by steve_ HOST
Jun 22, 2009 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Jun 20, 2009 2:43 am)

Mosley didn't help his case any by referring to FOTA's leaders as "loonies."
 
The brinkmanship continues:
 
Schism Is Real, Says Formula 1 Teams Association, Affirming Plan to Start New Series
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Re: bye bye Bernie? [steve_] by andys120
Jun 22, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 22, 2009 10:16 am)

I have to believe that ultimately Ecclestone will cave and help the FOTA guys get rid of Mad Max.
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Re: bye bye Bernie? [steve_] by jlbl
Jun 22, 2009 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 22, 2009 10:16 am)

Mosley (69 year-old) is said to be very stubborn indeed but now is ropedancing. Ecclestone (79 y-o) is trying to save his incredible income . Half of the benefits Eccs gets from track owners and other sponsors of F1 as a group is for himself; the other half for FOTA. I believe FOTA is eventually fighting the big battle to get full control of their business.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: bye bye Bernie? [jlbl] by steve_ HOST
Jun 22, 2009 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Jun 22, 2009 10:56 am)

Follow the money.

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