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#172 of 223 Re: It came down to this [bodble2]
by frisconick
Sep 27, 2005 (6:47 pm)
Yes the rear looks great. The term Avalon and sporty is an oxymoran
Sep 29, 2005 (10:56 am)
As mentioned previously I had an 04 TL for 18 months and now have had an 06 Avy for 3 weeks or so. Personally I like the way they both look but I still probably prefer the TL in the looks category. However, I have already received more compliments regarding "nice car, etc." from people I don't know in three weeks with the Avy, then I received in 18 months with the TL. Both were white. I'm not commenting on why this may be but I found it somewhat surprising.
#174 of 223 My thoughts
by jt7
Sep 29, 2005 (12:37 pm)
Have enjoyed reading the heated debates and will cautiously add my 2 bits worth.
1. Have owned a 2003 Acura TL Type-S Navi (rear ended sold)
2. Have owned a 2004 Acura TL A spec (sold)
3. Own a 2005 Toyota Avalon Ltd.
All were fun cars with different personalities- but all were compromises and none are perfect. Bottom line on the Avalon- quick, comfy, and solid build. Bottom line on the Acura TL (2004)- quick, sporty and solid build. It seems to me that you are deciding between sport and comfort(I am not saying the TL was not comfortable but the scales were more towards sport suspensions vs. luxury suspension). Again, all are compromises and neither are perfect. BTW, the Avalon is my wife's car and the TL used to be my car. I loved 4 door sport sedans and in the end the TL A-Spec was not enough for me. I upped the anti to a 2005 Audi S4- much faster, sportier and etc... (still a compromise when you compare it to other cars in its class). Once again, there is no perfect car just a perfect fit and I wish all weighing these 2 great cars good luck and happy shopping!
Sep 30, 2005 (11:25 am)
I looked at both cars along with the G35, 3 series, Maxima and I went with the Avalon. I commute an hour one way to work, so comfort was the supreme consideration. Also, the service costs on the G35 were rediculous ($300 for 15k, $600 for 30K according to dealer). The 3 series and the G35 just weren't comfy enough and I hit my head on the headliner in the Maxima. So, I got the limited with NAV, laser cruise, and VSC and traction control. Couldn't be happier. 30-31 mpg highway, 26-28 mpg in rush hour traffic commute.
Sep 30, 2005 (12:31 pm)
I have always liked the Audi S4-but I hear too many complaints about Audi's reliabilty.
My question to you is- is it MUCH faster than the TL, automatic for automatic, manual for manual?
I am leaning towards a manual car for my next purchase but my wife is giving me a hard time.
#178 of 223 Reply to question
by jt7
Sep 30, 2005 (12:55 pm)
My 03TL type S (automatic) was maybe 10% slower than my 04 (manual) A Spec TL.
If you are asking how much faster my Audi S4 (4.2 V8- manual) is compared to the 04 Acura- TL (a spec) it is not even close. Seriously, go test drive one and all questions will be answered. As for reliability, consumer reports now recommends this Audi and it is rated top in it's class. I now have 9k miles on the car and never had an ounce of trouble.
Link for research:
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0308_sport/index6.html
http://motortrend.com/features/performance/112_0403_tuner/index1.html
Also, the torque on the S4 is unbelievable. You can be in 6th gear at 40 and step on the gas and the car pulls harder than you could ever imagine- down shift and you had better hold on.
Again, all cars are compromises and I am sure there are better cars depending on how you measure them. For me, the Audi S4 was perfect for a sports sedan. The Avalon LTD was perfect for my wife (quick and comfy down the Hwy.)
Hope this was helpful-
Oct 03, 2005 (8:20 am)
Thanks for the info.
I am going to check out the manual S4 to see what it is about, I actually test drove a A4 3.0 couple of years ago-It was okay, nothing to go bragging about.
I was waching "Fast and Furious" over the weekend and it reinforced my decision to buy a manual transmission on my next purchase.
#180 of 223 Re: jt7 [billyperks]
by bodble2
Oct 03, 2005 (9:12 am)
The one problem with a manual tranny 4-door is no one wants them on the resale market, unless it's an M5.