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Acura TL, Toyota Avalon, Sedan
Aug 07, 2005 (7:10 pm)
The Avalon seems like a nice car for someone like my grandfather but not for me. Its big, ugly, boring and expensive. The TL is a better value and its not a toyota. My parents have problems with their 1996 Toyota Avalon, power steering fluid leaks in 2002 (replaces the whole thing), 2 flat tires, battery dies when it is only 8 years old and recently got hit by a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Toyota quality is not satisfactory. Still waiting for estimates on repairs to the body. The body bent in and the lights got pushed into the car but still work. Now there is no reason to buy another Toyota ever, worst cars ever made, thats why the police and taxi drivers dont use them, they tend to fall apart. No way am I going to pay $35k for a toyota. The smart key is a cheaper version with a black dot on each door handle, the dynamic cruise control is located next to foglamp instead of inside, its just too cheap. The Acura TL is much better. You get more for your money and a manual is nicer too. But i have to agree that the new Avalon is much better than before but will still fail with poor quality and reliablility.
My parents also own a 2003 Acura TL. Runs flawlessly, only problem was a recall on the transmission but that is the only problem. I trust Acura with their quality and reliablility. Acura also has better service than toyota (they wash and vacuum your car.
The TL is my choice, no offense. But i would probably choose the Avalon when i am 80.
#117 of 223 Re: Avalon... No Thanks [bobob20032000]
by frisconick
Aug 08, 2005 (10:31 am)
battery dies when it is only 8 years old
8 years is a long time for a battery to last, and Toyota didn't make the battery. I had a 96 Camry for 9 years and not one problem, the best car I ever owned in terms of reliability. I did, however, buy a new TL, and the jury is out on that car. The new Avalon is very fast, and not bad looking IMHO, but not my wife's taste. Toyota makes fine cars. It's not Toyota's fault a Jeep hit you. BTW, cabs is San Francisco use Camrys all the time.
#118 of 223 Re: Avalon... No Thanks [frisconick]
by bobob20032000
Aug 08, 2005 (10:43 am)
I guess Toyota is a decent car. I think the Camry is more reliable than the Avalon. I like the TL better, my 2003 TL is nicer than my Avalon, we bought the XL which is the base so its not as nice. Just waiting for estimates today on repairs by Toyota.
The Jeep Grand Cherokee was at a stop sign and just backed up because it was almost hit by a speeding Benz driven by an old lady at an intersection. The driver drove up and realize he couldnt make it so he backed up and i quess didnt see us. But i think Toyota need to design the cars better so that a case like this will have no damage except maybe a scratch. But their cars are so cheap so i get a dent in the middle and the grille has fallen off.
I guess i will consider a Toyota in the future. Probably the 2007 Toyota Camry or 2007 Lexus ES350.
Aug 08, 2005 (11:14 am)
just got estimates.... $2248.70 for repairs.
#120 of 223 what is the computer limited top speed for a 05or06 toyota avalon?
by gbrent
Aug 23, 2005 (5:33 am)
does anyone know what the limited top speed for the 05 or 06 avalon is?
please say where you got the answer, either by literature or by your actual road test. how does the car handle at max speed?
#121 of 223 Re: what is the computer limited top speed for a 05or06 toyota avalon? [gbrent]
by frisconick
Aug 23, 2005 (6:09 pm)
I don't have exact numbers, but I think the Avalon is slightly faster than the TL. As far as handling at that speed, I have know idea. I test drove the Avalon and did not feel as confident going fast in the Avalon as I did in the TL.
#122 of 223 Re: what is the computer limited top speed for a 05or06 toyota avalon? [frisconick]
by delmar1
Aug 29, 2005 (8:29 am)
What pupose is there with the 'top speed' indication?
#123 of 223 Re: what is the computer limited top speed for a 05or06 toyota avalon? [gbrent]
by robertu
Sep 01, 2005 (4:34 am)
gbrent, you asked "Does anyone know what the limited top speed for the 05 or 06 avalon is?"
I think I read somewhere that it's 179 miles per hour, or something like that. I think the 06 is faster than the 05, but not as fast as the 05 used to be since they decreased the horse power from 280 to 268. Hope this helps with your decision. You are making a decision, right?
ROBERTU
#124 of 223 Re: what is the computer limited top speed for a 05or06 toyota avalon? [robertu]
by hondaconvert1
Sep 01, 2005 (6:24 am)
The horse power remains the same for both 05 and 06 models. It is now mandatory to measure the HP performance on a vehicle with the A/C on which means ~10-12HP less...
#125 of 223 Re: what is the computer limited top speed for a 05or06 toyota avalon? [robertu]
by delmar1
Sep 01, 2005 (7:19 am)
This discussion of 'top speed' I believe is misleading.
Top speed is not dependent on what the speed gauge indicates and is not dependent on the horsepower rating.
Think of it...say that you hit the 'top speed' on the speed gauge on the flats...then you went on a hill. Do you think that the car would organically slow down? Same as the horsepower...not a direct indicator.
Again...not sure what you all are doing trying to figure out the 'top speed' of an Avalon.