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#9921 of 10048 Re: best non-manual transmission for a manual transmission driver. [volkov]
May 20, 2013 (9:29 pm)
And even the Mazda5 is now going the same way other manufacturers, most recently Subaru (much to my disappointment) have gone with all their models: you can only get the stick in the cheapo version. Want a moonroof, navigation, or leather? Then you can forget getting a stick.
It's a big let-down that Mazda is now following this same old pattern, but I should have known it was in the cards when Honda began removing the stick shift option first from the Accord, and then from the Civic (only LX and SI 4-doors can still be had with a stick), and even that is only in name - go into the dealer and ask to see the stick-shift selection and they will just fall over laughing. Tell them you will wait while it is ordered and they will sober up and talk about how it is an "unavailable model".
As for Rondo, do they still even make that? I haven't seen a new one in ages, I think it is gone. You can still get a Soul with a stick, but again only in the cheapo version.
Actually, when I wrote that comment I was thinking more of the crossover selection with a manual and AWD, which I BELIEVE (but don't quote me) is down to the Forester (cheapo model only, but not the turbo, oh no we wouldn't want to let you have the turbo with a stick shift) and the Porsche Cayenne. And that is in a market where crossovers are challenging the midsize sedans for biggest market sales segment, and almost 50% of all the sales are AWD. How many dozens of different models are there available? And only those two fringe models available with a stick. You talk about the minivan boat sailing a while ago but the AWD crossover boat is sailing as we speak.
#9922 of 10048 As for the price of the 1969 VW Bug...
May 21, 2013 (7:45 am)
as for a price of $1800, consider that my pops 1965 beetle was $1653 new (with optional rear seatbelts)... so $1800 for that 1969 is close to the original factory list price.
I agree, elias, $1,800 is a decent price. Of course, when you buy a used rig, you really are rolling the dice, anyway.
The issue of adjusting the valves is not even an issue anymore. Nuff said. I think I'll like doing that little happy, happy Bug boy task.
The fact I won't have air conditioning will be lost in all the fun I'll have shifting and driving the little Bug. All Alamodordan's have ta do is drive 15-20 miles east up into the Sacramento Mountains, the southernmost tip of the Rockies, to escape Alamogordo's hot and heavy weather. So I'll just Flintstone-pedal my Bug up the hill if I need "air conditioning" in a pinch! And the fact that it doesn't have very good handling dynamics is not an issue, either. I won't need good handling. The VW Bug was designed as a "car for the people," the German Model T. Right? Not a rally racer.
There's just something about the small dashboard, the view of the curved nose of the car from the driver's seat, the sheer elementary-ness of the entire design that intrigues me. I was given a business card from a co-worker today of someone who works on restoring VW Bugs today. The old VW Bugs. So I'm still investigating things. Not in a rush about getting that particular Bug I posted the picture of (or, IOW's, my wife won't allow this), but I want to at least chat with the owner of it. Remember, we have had the beautiful sedan below in Rally Red for over 6 years now, and my wife was opposed to that, too.
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS
Stay tuned fellow car nuts. This is what it's all about! Only a silly car enthusiast would want to buy a VW Bug from the 1960's.
At least one person selling their 60's Bug has installed airbags in their Beetle, though I'm not sure they would deploy properly in a crash. Still, visions of horrible accidents are not what normal people have when they think of a car purchase. If that's what I did in my mind whenever danger approached while driving I would abhor driving. I don't abhor driving, I absolutely love driving, and although I've never driven a VW Bug I think I'll absolutely love driving one! Perfect rig for a man that drives like a man about 30 years older than he is, eh?
#9923 of 10048 Re: As for the price of the 1969 VW Bug... [iluvmysephia1]
May 21, 2013 (7:44 am)
I am not sure what this means, but $1800 is what I bought a used 1970 VW Beetle with 10,000 miles in 1971 (42 years ago). I ran it for app 250,000 miles. Long about 110,000 miles, I was thinking that the clutch needed changing (it really didn't) and ran it another 140k.
At that time, I was in the service and the owner of the shop knew the old clutch could probably be put back in, but if it is already apart, why not put in a new one? I guess he knew money was tight, so he said if I bought the parts from him retail, he'd finish the job for a case or so of Heineken and pizzas.
May 21, 2013 (7:47 am)
amen, brother, if you were anywhere near Alamogordo, NM, now I'd feel like taking you out for pizza and Margarita's! That's what someone wants to hear 'bout now, not goofy scary negative stories designed to worry and pester a fellow car nut (I...I mean car man).
May 21, 2013 (9:04 am)
Actually Honda is not killing off the stick as fast as was implied. They actually have more MT models of Accord available for '13 than for '12 - 3 vs 2.
They do carry Accord sticks in stock. I bought mine off the dealer lot - no special order or laughing. EX with sunroof, backup cam, keyless entry and start, mirror cam, blutooth, remote window roll down etc. etc. So not that basic. No leather though, but maybe they will add that for the refresh.
#9926 of 10048 Re: As for the price of the 1969 VW Bug... [iluvmysephia1]
May 21, 2013 (9:35 am)
There are several things you can to do IMMENSELY improve the handling for not much money, as well as improve the engine.
Buy a '71 or newer bug. They have independent rear axle, a better oil cooler(called a "doghouse") and dual-port heads for better breathing. Another thing to give you an instant 1500 RPM of useable power is change out the stock 1.1 ratio rocker arms for a 1.4 ratio.
I did this to a "slightly punched" motor, and my useable RPM's went from 4.5 K to 6K.
Also, in that hot environment, install a higher capacity oil pump.
By using the doghouse cooler and the high-capacity oil pump, the engine will run cooler than if you had the external cooler. You are reading the words of someone who tried 5 aftermarket coolers and filter setups, before realizing the stock doghouse was best for cooling.
If you are mostly driving on the street, install a rear anti-sway bar(3/8" is all you need) and swap out the front bar from 3/8ths to 3/4 inch.
With my bug, putting out 125HP bench tested, and the handling mods, I used to give my friend in his 2002 tii ABSOLUTE FITS 'cause I could power-drift around him on a freeway cloverleaf...
May 21, 2013 (3:54 pm)
hey, you're destroying te stereotype of VW Bugs being gutless bombs, stop it! Great ideas from this Edmunds' bunch of car nuts, I knew I could count on you guys! My wife pleaded again with me not to buy one, so here we go again.
Gonna be a really, really tough sell to her on this idea.
"Go ahead and hit me with it, Mary! What kind of chance do I have with you?" ~ Jim Carrey, 'Dumb and Dumber'
#9928 of 10048 Re: slorenzen... [iluvmysephia1]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
May 21, 2013 (5:16 pm)
it's not a stereotype though------what he has done is all the right stuff to correct many of the car's original deficiences.....lack of power and squirrely handling. What he's telling you is that you don't have to be satisfied with the original as it is.
#9929 of 10048 Re: ruking... [iluvmysephia1]
May 21, 2013 (7:04 pm)
if you were anywhere near Alamogordo, NM, now I'd feel like taking you out for pizza and Margarita's! That's what someone wants to hear 'bout now, not goofy scary negative stories designed to worry and pester a fellow car nut (I...I mean car man).
I learned all about working on cars due to my '66 Bug. I learned how to change oil, adjust valves, points, timing. I learned how to change a clutch (you have to remove the engine--but in the Bug that's pretty easy and you don't need much other than some basic tools, a jack, and a collapsed cardboard box to do that, either. The only engines I've ever rebuilt were VW Bug engines, too.
Ahh, such fond memories.....
May 22, 2013 (7:06 am)
Aside from transaxle work, there's not much on a VW Bug that the amateur mechanic can't do in his driveway.