The Future Of The Manual Transmission

9896 messages,  Last post on May 06, 2013 at 3:09 PM

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#9850 of 9896 Re: stickshift jedi [stickguy] by bpizzuti

Feb 01, 2013 (7:02 pm)

Replying to: stickguy (Feb 01, 2013 6:55 pm)
Oh great the old fogies are gonna create a cult around an antiquated piece of technology, heh.
 
Just be careful. Worshiping the Almighty Stick has an awful lot of interesting connotations, many of which are not family friendly, and some of which are just plain hilarious.

#9851 of 9896 Re: stickshift jedi [bpizzuti] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Feb 01, 2013 (8:44 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Feb 01, 2013 7:02 pm)
One could say the same of guns, cigars and golf for that matter---. Why not target-shoot with a gun that has radar-guided bullets?---you don't even have to aim, and you will enjoy the full illusion of competence as a marksman.

#9852 of 9896 Re: stickshift jedi [Mr_Shiftright] by stickguy

Feb 01, 2013 (9:36 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 01, 2013 8:44 pm)
put that on a golf club and make it work, and you will be able to buy Bill Gates.

#9853 of 9896 Re: stickshift jedi [stickguy] by bpizzuti

Feb 02, 2013 (5:59 am)

Replying to: stickguy (Feb 01, 2013 9:36 pm)
Yeah, it also might actually make golf popular.

#9854 of 9896 Re: stickshift jedi [bpizzuti] by ruking1

Feb 02, 2013 (8:29 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Feb 01, 2013 7:02 pm)
"...Just be careful. Worshiping the Almighty Stick has an awful lot of interesting connotations, many of which are not family friendly, and some of which are just plain hilarious. "...
 
I really think it is the OTHER way around. Most of the worship, more importantly the monies have gone into "automatic"(transmissions) improvements, that so far have really not overcome the third pedals performance parameters, i.e. parasitic forces, mpg , range of mpg, durability, cost, to name a few, other than the automatics are ...automatic. At that, there has been, is and probably will remain a considerable premium, albeit for 47 years that I have been driving.
 
I say this from the perspective of owning automatics; 3,4,6,7,8 speeds, (3- in a 1950's car) 4,5,6 speeds manuals and a six speed DSG.
 
Further, I do really like the 8 speed A/T, 6 speed manual Tremec and 6 speed DSG. In the case of the 8 speed A/T, it is standard with no other transmission offering. In that sense, the extra cost (app 1,200) is built into the cost structure making it opaque. The 4,5,6, speed manuals almost all have had the A/T( extra cost option) The DSG was an 1,100 extra cost option over a 6 speed M/T standard.

#9858 of 9896 . by fintail

Mar 09, 2013 (12:17 pm)

gimmestdtranny - in response to your Ducati suggestion - I've looked at the small and medium (696, 796) Monster, and I like them a lot. They seem to be a perfect size and weight, and the ergonomics are fine for a rider who isn't 5'6" 130. The price kind of repels me - Monster 796 ABS shoots past 10K.. I was thinking/hoping now that I have a new car with a payment, I would be distracted from bikes. But, I still feel "want" when I see some. In my mind, I would be most likely to buy a Ninja 300/new Honda CB500 series (if they ever finally arrive) or a Monster. I am just being held back by unwillingness to spend, parking, and fear of local traffic. I don't want something too old, as I hate carbs and I want ABS. Heck, I have even thought about picking up a scooter just for fun, but those are mostly CVTs, so not appropriate here

#9859 of 9896 Re: . [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Mar 09, 2013 (12:43 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 09, 2013 12:17 pm)
Not all scooters are CVT, but all of them are dangerous vis a vis a motorcycle.
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