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#9760 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [cdnpinhead]
Jan 22, 2013 (9:31 pm)
The issue with the synthetic oil in the Cadillac cars was due to three factors:
1 - The synthetic "oil" is really just an oily goo with anti-wear additives added. Minus those additives, it's as effective as dish soap in keeping your engine parts from grinding together. The level has nothing to do with it. How clean it looks doesn't either. How much life the "oil" has left does.
2 - The oil life sensor was designed in typical German fashion and accurately reads the life left of the oil. Not how long it is until you need to change it! When it reads zero, it's not time to change the oil, it's your engine is about to destroy itself as the anti-wear additives are completely gone/used up. ie - 0% protection remaining. This was an oversight at GM and GM started telling its mechanics to recommend people come in when it showed 50% life remaining.
The new CTSs after about 2009 or so have new oil life sensors in them that are calibrated to be twice as sensitive (ie - they read 0% at the old one's 50%). If you change your synthetic oil every 5000 miles or 6 months, your car will be fine. Since it costs about twice as much as conventional oil, it works out to about the same price for upkeep.
3 - synthetic oils respond very poorly to being revved hard and extreme heat. That's because they use up their anti-wear additives quicker and then there's nothing to fall back on. The oil looks clean but as before, so does dish soap. You have really little warning before the oil just cooks itself. Dino-based oils on the other hand provide some protection no matter how old they are, so wear will happen but catastrophic incidents are less likely to happen (and you'll smell very hot oil in most cases when you park the car). People who run at high RPMs (manual drivers?) are advised to consider switching to a semi-sytnthetic instead of a pure synthetic and change every 3000 miles..
note - a lot of this info comes from S2000 and RX-8 forums where oil problems are common due to the high RPMs. Most people are advised to run semi-synthetic or racing oil. The CTS doesn't rev to 9000prm, so normal attention to the oil is fine.
Note - my dad has a CTS and changed it every 6K miles and it's still running like brand new.
But wait, it gets better!
GM recently is advising that new "performance" Cadillacs such as the CTS must use their Dexos approved oil. GM's own genuine Dexos appears to be fully synthetic on the package but it's actually a synthetic blend.
note the Castrol GTX semi-synthetic in the list.
I feel for the people who didn't realize this, but anyone could have reasonably figured out that GM was figuring it out as it went along and using the consumers as test subjects.
#9761 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [scwmcan]
Jan 22, 2013 (9:28 pm)
I know it may not be acceptable, being American and all, but what about a Buick Regal, maybe even a GS, with how poorly they are selling now I bet you could get a good deal on a GS, and may even be able to get in under our price target, and they do have a manual as well.
Appreciate the ideas scwmcan.
Personally I think the Verano is ugly in the back, and I'm not going to buy a car from GM which has very spotty reliability, plus was bailed out even though a failure. I also think there's a good chance GM may fail again, and since I keep cars 8-10 years, I need the support for quite a while.
#9762 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [benjaminh]
Jan 22, 2013 (9:35 pm)
It seems like you've gotten a great and reliable ride from your Acura, and yet you seem almost eager to leave the brand. Just curious as to why? Just ready to try something different?
I appreciate your comments. I like my TL quite a bit and it's certainly been very reliable. It's a nice car. But I don't find it giving me the passion that my '98 A4 (stick, 6 cyl) did. The TL is more like a sport cruiser - a bit too big and it wallows in turns. It's steering is ok but a bit numb. That's why I like the previous TSX as it's smaller and pretty agile. The new one is just too big and is pretty numb as well. The ILX is a tarted up Civic and I want/need a bit more refinement than that.
I'm glad Honda is finally turning it around a bit with the new Accord, but I really do want something a bit smaller than the TL.
I appreciate the list; I'm just a bit appalled at how little choice us stick drivers have these days. And I guess overall I'm less impressed with some of the latest cars, even though they have more electronics gadgets than in years past.
Probably I'd love a loaded Mini Cooper if I could get past the really small size. I may have to go out and drive one.
#9763 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [srs_49]
Jan 22, 2013 (9:38 pm)
What about a 2 or 3 year old Infiniti G37, with the 6MT? Although that's what I have, I am less than happy with the shifter.
I drove the G35 when looking and buying my TL. At that time I felt the engine was pretty harsh and the steering wheel jerked when I went over a curving ramp in my area that has some pavement repairs - something that neither my TL nor the A4 did. I also thought the interior was not that nice for the price. I should probably check out the G37 to see what's changed. Is it my imagination that in 2004 I saw a ton of G35s in my area, but in 2013 I see few G37's, as if the G's time has come and gone?
#9764 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [tlong]
Jan 23, 2013 (2:23 am)
"Probably I'd love a loaded Mini Cooper if I could get past the really small size. I may have to go out and drive one."
As you almost certainly know, the Mini Clubman is a slightly enlarged Mini. The back has more legroom, and the cargo area has more space. It's still small, but given that you're coming from a midsize car it might seem more realistic. The turbo versions of these are very fast, and yet still get very good mileage.
As you know, the Mini is engineered and built by BMW in England, and so that's really what it is. Seems like they have a fairly good reliability record.
Hope you'll test drive it and tell us what you think....
#9765 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [tlong]
Jan 23, 2013 (3:10 am)
No problem tong, I had a feeling that they had reasons for not being on the list, just wanted to mention them in case you had forgotten about them having manuals. I haven't driven them so don't know how they stack up in terms of driving enjoyment anyway ( though the regal at least should be in the ballpark) and it doesn't matter since they are off your list for other reason which are valid to you.
#9766 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [nippononly]
Jan 23, 2013 (8:50 am)
I'd be curious to know that maintenance costs she's buying every 10K.
An oil change yes, and it should be synthetic, which costs more, but can last you 10K. You probably also have to put in a 1/3 quart every 2,000 miles or so to top off again.
Timing belt is every 75-95K miles. Oh...it's probably a good idea to get a fuel and induction system cleaning every 40K miles or so to keep the carbon build up from happening. Other then that, I can't think of anything out of the ordinary.
Brakes and tires have been my biggest expense really, but those are wear and tear items that depend on how you drive. When I griped about the expense of them to my great mechanic, he said "no one ever said going fast was cheap."
#9767 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 23, 2013 (8:57 am)
I don't know, my mechanic knows them inside and out and says the newer ones are very reliable and good cars.
Proper maintenance is required, and you should have no issues.
I bet 90% of the problems with Audi's on the road are from neglectful maintenance, and/or from incompetent mechanic's and shops.
I got quoted "Multi-ATF Fluid" for my DSG transmission service from one shop. Needless to say, I didn't get the service from them as it requires a DSG Oil; not a fluid.
I bet there's a lot of issues with cars where the maintenance has been done by shoddy mechanic's that do things like put ATF fluid in the DSG transmission.
Also, the car repair business seems to be filled with crooks and criminals. Over-recommending replacement parts, or at least recommending them way too early can raise your running costs considerably. Recommending things you don't need at all does the same.
Find a good honest mechanic; that's the key.
#9768 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [andres3]
Jan 23, 2013 (11:40 am)
Audi has improved over the last few years wrt to published owner repair and complaint numbers and even made top 10 in the last CR survey. Go back a few years and it doesn't go so well. You got a good one, so run with it. Most complaints when I looked and considered buying were electrical, so maintenance and ATF would have no effect.
#9769 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [volkov]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 23, 2013 (11:57 am)
Exactly. Audi's reliability performance has gone from dismal to merely bad and now is actually acceptable. Probably the biggest complaint is maintenance costs. Audi parts are punishingly expensive.
Still, it's a nice driving and nice looking car and I see the appeal. I wouldn't mind having a new one. But not on my life would I ever buy a miled-up used one.
As for association with VW, that's not a plus.