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#9743 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [tlong]
Jan 22, 2013 (10:58 am)
I have an alternative that might work quite well. You want a car that's designed and tested in Germany, but is decently reliable and repairs won't cost you your second kid in collateral?
I'd get a Cadillac CTS. Specifically a 2007 (first generation) 3.6 with manual. This is the best CTS to get, IMO. Sure, the new one is prettier and has a much nicer interior, but it also is a lot more money.(plus trying to find one in manual is unobtanium). 2007 was the last year of the first body style and it's also depreciated a lot. As in you can get one with hardly any miles on it for the price of a new Yaris.
Things to be aware of are to NOT get the nav system - it breaks a lot and is garbage - get a Garman instead. Also, get the sport package if you can. Lastly, 2006+ had an Aisin 6 speed manual as standard - the same unit they use in the IS250 and the new CTS. (they thankfully dropped the old school 90s era Getrag 5 speed).
The car is utterly transformed with a manual - it's very fast and agile.
#9744 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [ateixeira]
Jan 22, 2013 (11:29 am)
WRX costs more to build too.
I'm wondering if they're running into technical issues. The thing is still well-shrouded in mystery. Except for the 2.0T engine it's probably going to get anyway.
#9745 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [bpizzuti]
Jan 22, 2013 (11:31 am)
Well, the Forester turbo is out, and the take rate is higher than with the previous model. I think the pretty-close fuel economy ratings help.
#9746 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [ateixeira]
Jan 22, 2013 (11:35 am)
Definitely does, but they can't just drop that powertrain into the WRX and go, there would be mass rioting if the only tranny in the WRX were a CVT.
On the other hand, the way they did the suspension on the XT, you could probably lower the thing and you'd effectively have a WRX. Maybe that's what they're planning, base it off the stiffer Forester rather than the lightened Impreza.
#9747 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [bpizzuti]
Jan 22, 2013 (12:21 pm)
It needs a 6 speed, I wonder if the diesel's manual can handle WRX power levels? Probably, right?
I wonder if it bolts up without too much trouble.
I've seen a video from the product planners that say the XT performs better than the base model (suspension, steering) but there's still room for an STi. I doubt we'll get it, though.
#9748 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [ateixeira]
Jan 22, 2013 (12:48 pm)
It might be able to, but I bet it doesn't bolt up easily.
I saw the same video, they really put a lot into the XT, sounds like they pretty much made it a lifted WRX, which is what got me thinking. I don't think a Forester STi would ever see our shores though, can you ever see that segment ever warming to a pure rally sport vehicle? We're talking compact SUV here, not sport compact.
#9749 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [plekto]
Jan 22, 2013 (1:05 pm)
I'd get a Cadillac CTS.
I used to agree, until I noticed the relatively large number of people who endured complete engine failure resulting from excessive oil consumption. I starated out thinking that the people who were complaining were the typical nanny-car folks who thought that checking the oil manually was for "those people," but eventually learned that some of the people who check oil carefully and often were hit as well.
I still follow the CTS Engine Failure (or some such) board, and the pattern continues: low oil all of a sudden followed by engine failure. It's somewhat of a user issue, as many think that they're looking at an oil level warning as opposed to an oil pressure warning. I guess we could call them low-information drivers.
#9750 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [nippononly]
Jan 22, 2013 (4:15 pm)
ut I know reliability and the cost to keep them on the road after the warranty is up is rumored to be nightmarish. I have a friend with a stick-shift A3 which is about 6 years old now, she loves that thing, held up well in a couple of wrecks and keeps on ticking without a lot of repair expense, contrary to said rumors....
Nightmarish? What rumors are these? I have a similar experience with a '06 A3 with 96K miles now to your female friend. I love the car and it costs far less to keep running reliably than my '95 Dodge did.
Only thing I've had to pay out of warranty for is a recirculation valve $400, and intake runner control module (reimbursed by Audi extended warranty).
I'd say the reliability is great, and to people that pay attention, Audi's quality control is obviously way above VW's.
#9751 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [andres3]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 22, 2013 (4:20 pm)
My friend runs a Porsche-Audi-Mini Cooper repair facility and he says that the Audi is the most maintenance-intensive of the three---and if you can out-maintenance a MINI, that's saying something.
#9752 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [benjaminh]
Jan 22, 2013 (4:21 pm)
This is fairly loaded, with moonroof, pushbutton start, 17" alloys, power seat, dual climate, side and rear camera, etc. That's a lot more than you'll get on the A3, even with the premium pkg
Moonroof: A lot of people don't even like that feature, or would prefer the Opensky version of it.
Pushbutton start: neat gadget, but keys work better.
17" alloys: Even a base stripper model A3 in 2006 offered this.
Powerseat: Okay, this is useful, if it has memory presets, but it also weighs more than a simple manual moving seat.
Dual Climate: Again, Standard in even base model A3's back in '06.
side and rear camera Pointless and useless options.
No serious driver would pay more than $0.10 for these things.
A side and rear camera has no place in an automobile. Learn to drive!
As you can see, no premium package required in the A3.