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#9723 of 10048 Need some advice
Jan 21, 2013 (3:51 pm)
OK gang, need some help. I'm at 130K on my '05 Acura TL and am starting to think about a replacement. Problem is I love the Asian reliablity but also love the German handling and driving. And those generally don't go together.
I had a '98 Audi A4, stick, manual, sport package, and loved that car except for the reliablity and costs to repair.
I tend to like smaller premium interior sedans, and I actually am strongly considering a manual as well. I'm thinking that I'll either buy new if a less expensive vehicle, but would really rather buy a more premium sedan that's 3-5 years old and save a bunch of the depreciation.
Here's the issue - of the cars that I like or might consider, I'm not sure what would be available in a manual:
- My first choice (just on looks) is the MB C-class. Can this even be had in manual?
- I don't like the looks of the Bangle 3-series, so that's out. I do like the looks of the current 3-series, but I have generally not been real excited about the BMWs because I don't think the interiors are that nice for the price. But I still might be convinced.
- I still could consider a used A4 but am kind of ambivalent on the looks.
- I do like the previous gen TSX but would like something a bit nicer if possible. Don't like the newer one at all.
- Is there much else available in a nice sedan with manual? Other thoughts might be Mazda 3 (love the handling, might be a little too cheesy inside for me), Jetta (new one seems pretty bland and cheaper than before, then there's VW dealers and reliablity).
I don't want something at the family sedan size - too big. Even the current A4 is getting almost too big for me.
I just don't see a ton of choices that are exciting me all that much. Any ideas out there?
#9725 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [tlong]
Jan 21, 2013 (4:07 pm)
I am pretty sure the current C is auto only, but manual could maybe be had until 2010-11 or so, I think anyway.
I will believe a manual CLA in NA when I see it. MBUSA marketing/product planning idiots are really not loving the stick shift anymore.
#9726 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [tlong]
Jan 21, 2013 (4:22 pm)
I was going to suggest the Volvo S60, but it seems that they no longer have a manual option.
Other than that, the Jetta GLI is nice, and that still has a "premium" interior. I do like the TSX, though it seems that you don't.
Manual Benz is a rare bird, and not sure they have a worthwhile trans/clutch set up.
Might be best just going with a CPO 3 series. the 2010/2011 models (with the 6 cyl.) are better looking than the early bangle models.
#9727 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [stickguy]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jan 21, 2013 (4:42 pm)
Jetta GLI is a good idea..
#9728 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [steve_]
Jan 21, 2013 (5:18 pm)
We should bookmark that and see who is right!
#9729 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [kyfdx]
Jan 21, 2013 (5:48 pm)
Thanks everybody for the suggestions and information.
I might even consider a hatch, which would open up the Golf GTI and maybe even a fully decked out Mini Cooper, though that's a bit smaller than I'd like.
I do like the style of the S60 but I'm thinking no more than $30K, so that's either cheaper car that's new, or expensive car that's old. So a brand new MB is probably not a good idea, either.
Oh well, the Acura TL is still going strong and I can probably go another 5 years on it if I need to. It's too bad there are so few manual options left.
#9730 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [steve_]
Jan 21, 2013 (6:11 pm)
Will the CLA have seating for two or three in back? I suspect two, since it's a coupe, buy I haven't read or seen anything to confirm that. Or, is it a sedan with coupe styling, with a bench back seat? I prefer the flexibility of being able to accommodate a third passenger in back, even if it's tight, for those occasions, admittedly infrequent, when it's useful to have it.
I wonder whether the displacement of the C-Class 4-cylinder will be bumped up to 2.0 for 2014, from 1.8, to match the displacement of the less expensive CLA?
#9731 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [hpmctorque]
Jan 21, 2013 (6:23 pm)
Pretty sure the cla is a "four door" coupe, like the cls. I think it is supposed to have a rear bench, but not 100% sure on that. It should be somewhere in the range you want to pay unless ( likely) Mercedes jacks the price up because it is a "coupe". I know up here in Canada we can get the new B-class at the $30,000 point to start, but I have a feeling the cla will be more upmarket somehow.
Edit: sorry home, thought you had asked the original question about $30,000 cars.
#9732 of 10048 Re: Need some advice [ateixeira]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Jan 21, 2013 (6:59 pm)
We should bookmark that and see who is right!
My money is on Fintail.
Sounds like it's intended to slot just below the C-Class.