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#9545 of 9931 gas was different back then too - gave more mpg
by elias
Oct 23, 2012 (6:35 pm)
when comparing with ancient vehicle mpg please keep in mind that the gasoline back then was not as much adulterated with lower-energy mpg-robbing crapola.
the ballpark adjustment is +/- 10% accordingly when comparing 70s or 80s mpgs with recent decades reformulated gasoline 1,2..N.
there are 95 versions of reformulated gasoline now. none giving as much mpg as actual gasoline. thankfully the MTBE versions are gone but fwiw those provided better mpg than those using ethanol as oxygenate.
california switched to oxygenated gas in early 1990s. today it's everywhere in USA within 100 miles of cities. in distant rural areas real gasoline was still available last time I drove that far... try it and watch your mpg go up by an easy 10% whether you drive a stickshift or an automatic.
for those of us within 100 miles of cities, one way around the dirty-gasoline nonsense is to trade for a diesel vehicle, cleaner fuel , cleaner burning, less adulteration of the fuel, 50% better mpg.
#9546 of 9931 Re: Datsun B210GX [kyfdx]
by p0926
Nov 05, 2012 (1:44 pm)
My dad had a 1972 Datsun 1200 (forerunner of the B-210). That car routinely got 40+ mpg but then it only had 68 HP and weighed something like 1,600 lbs. Of course its zero-60 was glacial and you wouldn't want to get into an accident with anything bigger than a squirrel
He used it as a daily driver for 15 years and then gave it to my sister who drove it for about another 5. It was extremely reliable but like many cars of that era, eventually succumbed to rust (passenger seat actually went thru the floor pan)
To keep this on topic, that was the car on which I learned to drive a stick.
-Frank P.
#9549 of 9931 $750 for buying a manual
by steve_ HOST
Dec 05, 2012 (10:48 am)
Don't recall ever seeing an incentive like this.
"Bonus Cash is available towards retail purchases on vehicles equipped with a manual transmission."
2013 Dodge Dart
#9550 of 9931 Re: $750 for buying a manual [steve_]
by ateixeira
Dec 05, 2012 (10:48 am)
AMEN TO THAT!
#9551 of 9931 Re: $750 for buying a manual [ateixeira]
by xwesx
Dec 05, 2012 (4:07 pm)
That might be a bad sign... meaning the take rate on the manual is much lower than the MFG expected, so they're offering an incentive to get those cars sold.
#9552 of 9931 Re: $750 for buying a manual [xwesx]
by elias
Dec 06, 2012 (4:40 am)
yes, it surely means there is excess inventory of manual-transmission Jags due to overestimate of ratio of stick buyers to automatic buyers...
#9553 of 9931 Re: $750 for buying a manual [elias]
by xwesx
Dec 06, 2012 (10:40 am)
Jags... what? I thought we were discussing Dodge Dart?
#9554 of 9931 Re: $750 for buying a manual [elias]
by ateixeira
Dec 06, 2012 (1:25 pm)
They built 2 and only sold 1 of them.