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The Future Of The Manual Transmission

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#9540 of 9930 Re: Datsun B210GX [habitat1] by kyfdx HOST

Oct 20, 2012 (7:56 am)

Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 19, 2012 12:58 pm)
When my '82 Accord was newer, I consistently achieved 36 mpg.. in all sorts of driving...
 
That was a carbuereted 1751 cc, 4 cylinder....
 
No A/C or P/S, though.. (and, much, much lighter than a modern Accord)

#9541 of 9930 Re: Datsun B210GX [habitat1] by ateixeira

Oct 23, 2012 (12:11 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 19, 2012 12:58 pm)
I recall an article that mentioned the S2000 got much better than stated EPA mpg in the real world, among the top under-rated cars actually.

#9542 of 9930 Re: Datsun B210GX [kyfdx] by ateixeira

Oct 23, 2012 (12:11 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 20, 2012 7:56 am)
Probably the size of today's Fit, no?

#9543 of 9930 Re: Datsun B210GX [kyfdx] by volkov

Oct 23, 2012 (1:58 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 20, 2012 7:56 am)
Like my old Civic - my first car and still one of the most fun to drive. Manual rack and pinion with great feedback., On a straight stretch of highway I swore I could have closed my eyes and kept her in the middle of the road. Hated to parallel park her though. 5sp of course!

#9544 of 9930 Re: Datsun B210GX [ateixeira] by kyfdx HOST

Oct 23, 2012 (4:09 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 23, 2012 12:11 pm)
Well.. not inside! lol..
 
About the size of a mid-'90s Civic hatchback, I'd say... It was my daily driver for 12 years..... just plain wore it out...

#9545 of 9930 gas was different back then too - gave more mpg by elias

Oct 23, 2012 (6:35 pm)

when comparing with ancient vehicle mpg please keep in mind that the gasoline back then was not as much adulterated with lower-energy mpg-robbing crapola.
 
the ballpark adjustment is +/- 10% accordingly when comparing 70s or 80s mpgs with recent decades reformulated gasoline 1,2..N.
 
there are 95 versions of reformulated gasoline now. none giving as much mpg as actual gasoline. thankfully the MTBE versions are gone but fwiw those provided better mpg than those using ethanol as oxygenate.
 
california switched to oxygenated gas in early 1990s. today it's everywhere in USA within 100 miles of cities. in distant rural areas real gasoline was still available last time I drove that far... try it and watch your mpg go up by an easy 10% whether you drive a stickshift or an automatic.
 
for those of us within 100 miles of cities, one way around the dirty-gasoline nonsense is to trade for a diesel vehicle, cleaner fuel , cleaner burning, less adulteration of the fuel, 50% better mpg.

#9546 of 9930 Re: Datsun B210GX [kyfdx] by p0926

Nov 05, 2012 (1:44 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 23, 2012 4:09 pm)
My dad had a 1972 Datsun 1200 (forerunner of the B-210). That car routinely got 40+ mpg but then it only had 68 HP and weighed something like 1,600 lbs. Of course its zero-60 was glacial and you wouldn't want to get into an accident with anything bigger than a squirrel He used it as a daily driver for 15 years and then gave it to my sister who drove it for about another 5. It was extremely reliable but like many cars of that era, eventually succumbed to rust (passenger seat actually went thru the floor pan) To keep this on topic, that was the car on which I learned to drive a stick.
 
-Frank P.

#9548 of 9930 Jag saving the manuals? by ateixeira

Nov 09, 2012 (9:26 am)

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/jaguar-f-type/jaguar-offer-manual-gearboxes
 
F-Type and maybe even the XF will get one. Cool.

#9549 of 9930 $750 for buying a manual by steve_ HOST

Dec 05, 2012 (10:48 am)

Don't recall ever seeing an incentive like this.
 
"Bonus Cash is available towards retail purchases on vehicles equipped with a manual transmission."
 
2013 Dodge Dart

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