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#9519 of 9915 Re: CAMPAGNOLO: The Future Of The Automatic Transmission [victor23]
by ateixeira
Oct 16, 2012 (9:59 am)
same as hydraulic to normal non-power steering
NA Miatas were available with no power assist! They're sought after now.
Oct 16, 2012 (11:48 am)
Love manual steering. Still miss my 1980 Scirocco. Most fun car I have driven. It's not all about speed and hp.
Never driven a manual steering miata - must be fun as well.
Oct 16, 2012 (11:49 am)
No filter for the feedback. Not ideal for parking lots but at speed they're wonderful.
#9522 of 9915 Re: CAMPAGNOLO: The Future Of The Automatic Transmission [ateixeira]
by cdnpinhead
Oct 16, 2012 (1:31 pm)
NA Miatas were available with no power assist! They're sought after now.
This is most certainly true.
It was also true back in '91 and '94 when I bought my Miatas. The first time, in '91, I had to seek out a base model that lacked power steering, but in '94 I happened on an "R" model that was spec'd w/o power steering from the outset.
I drove a '71 Kenworth tractor with "armstrong" steering for a couple of years, and it provided the same level of control that my cars with manual steering have -- I loved it. Plus which, it's not rocket science to drive a vehicle without power steering. It only requires that the vehicle be moving when directional changes are desired. It's called planning. Or "planning ahead" for those of you from less advantaged school districts.
#9523 of 9915 Re: CAMPAGNOLO: The Future Of The Automatic Transmission [cdnpinhead]
by habitat1
Oct 16, 2012 (2:30 pm)
Or "planning behind" if you are backing into a parking space.
My first car, a 1978 Datsun B210GX didn't have power anything. Steering, brakes, windows, seats, ....engine. On the other hand it weighed 1,950 lbs and ran on 13" 145 width tires. My Acura TL has had a faulty power steering pump for the last 6 months, giving me almost no power assist when the vehicle is cold. At 3,400 lbs and sitting on 17" 235 width tires, parallel parking into a space with 2 feet to spare has definitely added 10 yards to my 7-iron. Helped add some zip to my line drives in baseball as well, although I still have a little trouble with the curve.
#9524 of 9915 Re: CAMPAGNOLO: The Future Of The Automatic Transmission [habitat1]
by kyfdx HOST
Oct 16, 2012 (4:00 pm)
didn't have power anything.... ....engine
That's exactly how I remember the B210....
My '82 Accord had manual steering, but it was no fun at low speed... The steering wheel was far out ahead of you, and no leverage... Otherwise, the car was just about perfect..
#9525 of 9915 Re: CAMPAGNOLO: The Future Of The Automatic Transmission [kyfdx]
by fezo
Oct 16, 2012 (4:53 pm)
I had no idea you could buy an Accord with manual steering as late as 82!
#9526 of 9915 juke-box-hero
by elias
Oct 16, 2012 (5:52 pm)
that's funny with the jukebox-hero, man. also funny is that i got an offer for popular-science for $10/year today. i am probably going to subscribe, to honor you, as well as my lost youth.
my source for manuals-cheaper-to-insure is 'amica' - looong ago... but i haven't gotten a new quote in years. maybe rates are identical today. years ago there was something like a $60 (<5%) difference for an automatic vs manual Z28, near Boston. if you get a couple of VINs of identically-equipped-except-for-transmission new vehicles, you can check/compare with your company. locally it seems that always needs a VIN for an exact quote. please don't mention geico - the company that refuses to insure anyone who owns a radar detector. (also please never mention the susquehanna hat company.)
#9527 of 9915 Re: CAMPAGNOLO: The Future Of The Automatic Transmission [kyfdx]
by xwesx
Oct 16, 2012 (6:39 pm)
'69 Econoline.... manual steering everything (except transmission - go figure!). That thing is smooth as butter to steer at any speed (greater than about five), but boy is it a chore to maneuver in tight spaces! I've given myself a serious workout more than once trying to get out of a tight spot.
#9528 of 9915 manual transmission 1978 pacer
by elias
Oct 17, 2012 (3:47 am)
1978 pacer. manual steering. manual brakes too i think. crank windows. the driver turned engine off at top of Rt 2 hill and rolled down
60 mph for a few miles, took a belmont exit and coasted to the front of one of the original Steve's ice-creams. he had to restart the car to parallel park into the parking spot, however.
rock on!