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The Future Of The Manual Transmission

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#9253 of 9932 Re: I would just like to know... [ateixeira] by benjaminh

Aug 09, 2012 (12:15 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 07, 2012 1:03 pm)
My brother-in-law has a 2012 Civic Si 4 door. This is a very entertaining car to drive. And the manual trans is one of the very best in the world.
 
People who love manuals should really like this car. It's a great deal for 22k.
 
The last engine was kinda weak for daily driving, or at least I've heard. Some people rev their engine to 7 k before shifting, but imho those people are a little nuts. Shifting at 3-5 k rpm in the new larger Si engine is very sweet. That thing just pulls and pulls at any rpm.
 
The shift knob is a heavy and cold piece of precision machined metal. Never felt one like that. I liked it a lot.

#9254 of 9932 Re: I would just like to know... [benjaminh] by elias

Aug 09, 2012 (5:06 pm)

Replying to: benjaminh (Aug 09, 2012 12:15 pm)
you gotta rev the heck out of those vtec honda engines! think S2000
I never had an SI but I owned 3 early-1990s civics. they were great cars.
but my mountain-highway civic commute mpg dropped massively (>25%) when the RFG/ethanol/MTBE gasoline was introduced in california...
 
now all gas vehicles in USA get the "benefit" of significantly lower mpg thanks to ethanol! hooray.

#9255 of 9932 Re: I would just like to know... [elias] by habitat1

Aug 09, 2012 (6:53 pm)

Replying to: elias (Aug 09, 2012 5:06 pm)
you gotta rev the heck out of those vtec honda engines! think S2000
 
I had a 2002 Honda S2000. The serious acceleration started around 7,000 rpm when the Vtec really kicked in. 9,000 RPM redline. A little noisy, but a lot of fun.
 
When I was fortunate enough to being able to buy a 911 in 2005, I seriously considered the GT3 with its 8,400 rpm redline. But no back seat. I ended up with a 911S Cab so I could cart around my wife and two young daughters in the "family car". Sold the 911 last year, but still miss my S2000 just about as much. At only $32k, it was an outright steal. It was absolutely the best sports car under $50k ever made by anybody. Period.
 
I think Acura is missing the boat with the new $120k NSX. I wouldn't take it over a Porsche 911. But if they came back with a slightly improved, refined S3000 for about $50k, I think they would be able to put the base Boxster, Z4 and SLK out of business.

#9256 of 9932 Re: I would just like to know... [elias] by ateixeira

Aug 10, 2012 (6:35 am)

Replying to: elias (Aug 09, 2012 5:06 pm)
now all gas vehicles in USA get the "benefit" of significantly lower mpg thanks to ethanol! hooray.
  
Yeah but at least corn prices are much higher now.

#9257 of 9932 Re: I would just like to know... [ateixeira] by morin2

Aug 10, 2012 (2:16 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 10, 2012 6:35 am)
Yeah but at least corn prices are much higher now.
 
So we get lower fuel economy on the way to the supermarket to pay higher food prices. A lose-lose proposition for the consumer.

#9258 of 9932 entertainment value by morin2

Aug 10, 2012 (2:21 pm)

btw, I'm clamming up for now about filling MT cars with shellfish. Can anyone direct me to the mussel car thread?

#9259 of 9932 Re: entertainment value [morin2] by steve_ HOST

Aug 10, 2012 (2:46 pm)

Replying to: morin2 (Aug 10, 2012 2:21 pm)
We really need to tackle these off-topic puns. Props to you for some good ones though - guess that the lure of a fun forum.

#9260 of 9932 Re: entertainment value [steve_] by bpizzuti

Aug 10, 2012 (4:05 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Aug 10, 2012 2:46 pm)
At least you didn't talk about "canning" them....

#9261 of 9932 harrumph by nippononly

Aug 13, 2012 (7:27 pm)

Just read the initial specs on Subaru's new XV Crosstrek (Soob's attempt to disguise an Impreza wagon as something else in order to gain additional sales from the same car), and feel betrayed!
 
The manual will only be available in the base model (called Premium trim in this case), and you can't get the optional moonroof and NAV that are available on all automatic-equipped Crosstreks. Boo!
 
Not to mention that the manual offered is still the crappy old 5-speed, with 10% worse fuel economy (EPA rating) than the automatic. Double boo! And from an automaker that I rely on to be one of the last defenders of the manual when all the big guys have dropped out of the manual business.

#9262 of 9932 Re: harrumph [nippononly] by steve_ HOST

Aug 13, 2012 (7:33 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Aug 13, 2012 7:27 pm)
Here's Inside Line's take.
 
2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Quick Drive: An Impreza, But Different
 

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