The Future Of The Manual Transmission

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#9032 of 9950 - by dudleyr

Jul 11, 2012 (7:46 pm)

I see that the manual take rate for the FRS is 56%.
 
Not too shabby.

#9033 of 9950 Re: - [dudleyr] by andys120

Jul 12, 2012 (8:07 am)

Replying to: dudleyr (Jul 11, 2012 7:46 pm)
I see that the manual take rate for the FRS is 56%.
  
Not too shabby.

 
Given the nature of the car, I'd say that's a bit on the low side but what's the alternative a TC A/T with paddle shifting or a DCT (I see someone hitting shift paddles in the TV ad)?

#9034 of 9950 Re: - [dudleyr] by nippononly

Jul 12, 2012 (10:21 pm)

Replying to: dudleyr (Jul 11, 2012 7:46 pm)
I would love to actually find a dealer with an FRS in stock, so I can check it out.

#9035 of 9950 Re: any transmission [qbrozen] by nippononly

Jul 12, 2012 (10:24 pm)

Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 11, 2012 6:33 am)
I think not so much argument as confusion. Does your category mean any car that CAN shift for itself, even if there is a mode in which it WON'T shift for itself?
  
And, by the way, you still flick a button "by hand." And some manumatics don't have buttons... you have to do it with the gear lever.

 
My category means any car that CAN shift for itself, yes. AUTOmatic. auto = doing it for itself.
 
In a manual you move the gears by hand, the gears are not moved by a human in any of the various DSG/DCT/TC slushie variations, and of course in a CVT there are no gears at all.

#9036 of 9950 Re: any transmission [nippononly] by bpizzuti

Jul 13, 2012 (6:10 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Jul 12, 2012 10:24 pm)
In your world, a manual transmission that automatically drops a gear when you floor it is an automatic transmission. Think about that.

#9037 of 9950 Re: any transmission [bpizzuti] by qbrozen

Jul 14, 2012 (4:33 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 13, 2012 6:10 am)
Does such a transmission even exist??

#9038 of 9950 Re: any transmission [bpizzuti] by nippononly

Jul 14, 2012 (9:44 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 13, 2012 6:10 am)
I've never witnessed such a transmission but yes, if the transmission will change gears without me changing them it is an automatic.

#9039 of 9950 Re: any transmission [bpizzuti] by volkov

Jul 14, 2012 (11:15 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 13, 2012 6:10 am)
Yep, that's automatic in my book.
A manual cannot change the gear ratio without input from the driver. Everything else is a variation on auto.

#9040 of 9950 Re: any transmission [volkov] by bpizzuti

Jul 15, 2012 (7:06 am)

Replying to: volkov (Jul 14, 2012 11:15 pm)
Then by your definition, very soon everything will be some form of automatic.
 
Wake up and smell the future guys. Life isn't that simple anymore.

#9041 of 9950 - by dudleyr

Jul 15, 2012 (7:13 am)

The future seems boring and lazy without manuals. I will enjoy the present while I can.
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