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5809 messages, Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 12:30 PM
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Replying to: rayainsw (Oct 25, 2009 5:52 am) The car had many good qualities, but was just too French for my tastes. The designers seemed to value doing things differently from the norm, just for the sake of being different. The column shifter was not one of my favorite features.
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Replying to: oregonboy (Oct 25, 2009 7:18 am) The worst? For reliability the boxes on my Saab 9000 Turbos and for general driveability the five speed on my '91 Taurus SHO with throws that were way too long and a clutch that was just out of phase with the rest of the drivetrain. The Moss crash box on a lady friend's '62 E-Type 3.8 wasn't great, what a difference the new box on the Series II made! Best Automatic, the (GM-built!) 5-speed Steptronic on my BMW 528i. Worst Auto- the klutzy 4speeder in my MIL's Buick LeSabre, it's incapable of a smooth shift over 3000 RPM. |
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| I sampled one of these back-to-back with an 06 Miata at the Zoom Zoom Live event they hosted, and I liked the Miata better, but it was very close. | |
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Looking for an upgrade to a mid sized General Motors car or SUV with a stick. Can't seem to find one. Any ideas?
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Replying to: jawsman004 (Nov 05, 2009 5:16 pm) Subaru does, though. |
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Replying to: jawsman004 (Nov 05, 2009 5:16 pm) Drive a Grand Vitara and then a Forester. Any others? |
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GM does offer manual in the CTS. The first generation with the 3.6 was actually a nice car and can be had fairly reasonably priced. The other car of note is the original new GTO. The one with the LS1 engine and manual gets 29mpg highway(!), so it's as fuel efficient as a typical GM sedan but is RWD with 350HP. Either will more than suffice, used.
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Replying to: plekto (Nov 05, 2009 11:07 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 06, 2009 8:13 am) As for 2004-06 GTO, many can get a realistic 20 mpg, or about 24 mpg on highway, but not 29mpg. The 2010 camaro offers a 6-speed stickshift, 29 mpg highway, 300 HP V6: $23k.
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Replying to: elias (Nov 06, 2009 9:30 am) Automatic is 16/21, btw - it's all about that 6th tall gear for highway cruising, evidently. The Camaro is basically the same type of engine/transmission combo and it gets better MPG because they've de-tuned it to 300HP vs 350 or 400.(which is still way more then enough to be honest) All three are awesome cars to drive, though. I mentioned the GTO and the CTS because you can find mint condition ones still around for half the price of a Camaro.
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