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The Future Of The Manual Transmission

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Here's what I'm talkin' about... by iluvmysephia1
Oct 24, 2009 (7:09 am)
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Now, if someone was stung by this particular bug badly enough I spose they could tolerate the rear end.
 
What would interest a person like me more with that cool front end is stretching this length back a squish and adding two doors. And slamming that rearward bent-up angle down and designing an attractive rear end to it for a 4-door sedan worthy to take on any and all car markets.
 
Oh, the Civic 4-door sedan already foots this bill, eh? Not for me it doesn't. Mitsu still blows Honda away in their styling department, IMHO. To pull away a New World Order Lancer-lover like myself Honda would need to take designs like this and meld some real beauty in to them, with sportiness at the forefront.
 
To get what's being described as a reputation of having a smooth manual shifting experience from Honda is worthy of further future interest, though, huh?
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Re: Here's what I'm talkin' about... [iluvmysephia1] by nippononly
Oct 24, 2009 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Oct 24, 2009 7:09 am)

Now, if someone was stung by this particular bug badly enough I spose they could tolerate the rear end.
 
Me me me!
 
If it handles like a CRX and goes fairly fast in a straight line, while getting better than 40 mpg and employing a 3-pedal manual, it's exactly what I'm looking for. Let's face it, the old CRXs that everybody loved so much weren't THAT great-looking either, just fairly squarish little hatchbacks. But they were a ton of fun.
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And that is what will probably help... by iluvmysephia1
Oct 24, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Honda sell a ton of these. The word has been out for a while now on the new world order CRX, so people are expecting great things in this little package.
 
I recall a buddy from Boeing who drive his girlfriend's red late 80's Honda CRX around in absolute joyful glee! He said it was a ball to drive because of it's great acceleration and handling.
 
It does perk up my ears a bit, too. And yes, one must have a manual tranny in this pup, for sure-for sure!
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4 spd on the column Re: best tranny [plekto] by rayainsw
Oct 25, 2009 (5:52 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Oct 23, 2009 1:43 pm)

"Even though it had an odd shifter on the column,(only 4 speed plus reverse like that I know of, as well)"
 
The other one like this that I am aware of
[ 4 fwd speeds on the column + reverse
drove one once - same time frame = late 60s ]
is the Peugeot 404.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_404
 
Odd indeed...
But better than the 3 on the column Plymouth
I was driving at the time....
- Ray
Not a connoisseur any more...
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Re: 4 spd on the column Re: best tranny [rayainsw] by oregonboy
Oct 25, 2009 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Oct 25, 2009 5:52 am)

I owned another French car with a column mounted 4-speed manual shifter; the Renault 16. Wiki link
 

 
The car had many good qualities, but was just too French for my tastes. The designers seemed to value doing things differently from the norm, just for the sake of being different.
 
 The column shifter was not one of my favorite features.
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Re: 4 spd on the column Re: best tranny [oregonboy] by andys120
Oct 25, 2009 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Oct 25, 2009 7:18 am)

The best tranny I ever drove was the all-synchro 4speed on my buddy's '67 E-Type 4.2, the best I've owned was the delightful five speed on my '71 Fiat 124 Spider 1600.
 
The worst? For reliability the boxes on my Saab 9000 Turbos and for general driveability the five speed on my '91 Taurus SHO with throws that were way too long and a clutch that was just out of phase with the rest of the drivetrain. The Moss crash box on a lady friend's '62 E-Type 3.8 wasn't great, what a difference the new box on the Series II made!
 
Best Automatic, the (GM-built!) 5-speed Steptronic on my BMW 528i. Worst Auto-
the klutzy 4speeder in my MIL's Buick LeSabre, it's incapable of a smooth shift over 3000 RPM.
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RX8 by ateixeira
Oct 26, 2009 (11:21 am)
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I sampled one of these back-to-back with an 06 Miata at the Zoom Zoom Live event they hosted, and I liked the Miata better, but it was very close.
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2010 Models by jawsman004
Nov 05, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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Looking for an upgrade to a mid sized General Motors car or SUV with a stick. Can't seem to find one. Any ideas?
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Re: 2010 Models [jawsman004] by xwesx
Nov 05, 2009 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: jawsman004 (Nov 05, 2009 5:16 pm)

I don't think you are going to find one in anything bigger than a Cobalt. I seriously doubt they offer them in their SUVs. It is sad, really.
 
Subaru does, though.
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Re: 2010 Models [jawsman004] by ateixeira
Nov 05, 2009 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: jawsman004 (Nov 05, 2009 5:16 pm)

This may be a stretch, but Suzuki offers one in the Grand Vitara, last time I checked, and GM may still own a small share of them (maybe not any more).
 
Drive a Grand Vitara and then a Forester.
 
Any others?

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