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Automotive News & Views The Future Of The Manual Transmission
5809 messages, Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 12:30 PM
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from a review of the 2009 WRX today at Autoweek... ....I thought this was an STI because it felt like it has much more power than it's rated at and is really fun to drive. And I would like to thank Subaru for not joining in the latest fad in making this more attractive to the masses by putting in a paddle-shift transmission and taking out the fun manual. That was the best part of this car. You got that right!  http://www.autoweek.com/article/20091019/CARREVIEWS/910199996
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 19, 2009 4:03 pm) I used to subscribe, but then I started to feel like it was AutoSnob, i.e. they focused way too much on expensive cars and never took value into consideration. Their idea of a "cheap" car was an EVO or STI, and at $35 grand or so, that's not hardly cheap to an average American. Nice to see them praise a car under $30 grand for once.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 20, 2009 6:00 am) Of course, the WRX isn't much under $30K these days, gone are the days of the $22K Subaru hot hatch. 
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 21, 2009 4:56 pm) They make a bit more $$$ than the average household, to say the least.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 22, 2009 11:00 am) That's what happens when the coupon sites post free subscriptions now and then. 
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 22, 2009 11:05 am)
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Replying to: carstryke (Oct 22, 2009 8:17 pm) Best regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Oct 23, 2009 2:17 am) But all are a giant gap ahead of Ford, GM, and Hyundai.
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Replying to: plekto (Oct 23, 2009 5:53 am) I'd classify them in the following way: - 1st -- 1985 Mazda RX-7 (and possibly the S2000 and RX-8) - 2nd -- Porsche and BMW 1, 3 and 5 series manual transmissions - 3rd -- Audi, VW, Honda (FWD), Mazda manual transmissions - 4th -- Mercedes-Benz - 5th -- All the rest Best regards, Shipo
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Replying to: carstryke (Oct 22, 2009 8:17 pm) No doubt that 93 Miata is the best shifter I've ever sampled - for me. I took the shifter apart to add gear oil to the turret a couple of times. It's basically drowned in gear oil (75w90 so it's thick, but not grease-thick), so you're literally stirring a pot of gear oil. Sooooo smooth, liquid. Literally liquid. This is subjective because some people prefer a click-clack metal feel, like, say, the Honda S2000. I don't. To me it takes more effort to shift and it's not at all forgiving, you have to be perfectly precise else it won't enter the gate. Some may argue that skill should be required for a "good" manual, but I think one that finds the gear more easily wins.
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