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The Future Of The Manual Transmission

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Small population by ruking1
Sep 19, 2009 (9:58 am)
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While this is a very small current population VW's both gassers and turbo diesels list (6 spd) manual transmissions as the standard offerings.
 
The same is true of the Audi line. Needless to say lines that do not offer manual transmissions are more the exception than the rule.
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interesting factoid by nippononly
Oct 10, 2009 (10:21 pm)
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As of May 1, 2008 when this article was written, the manual take rate for Civics and Mazda3s was 18%. For Imprezas, it was 28%. Pretty cool!
 
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0805_civic_mazda3_impreza_corolla- _comparison/index.html
 
That's what, 60K Civics per year at least, being sold with a stick? It's nice to know there are still a goodly number of people out there that actually want to DRIVE their cars......
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Re: interesting factoid [nippononly] by tallman1
Oct 11, 2009 (6:11 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 10, 2009 10:21 pm)

Way cool. My next Honda may have to be a Civic.
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Nary a stick to be found... by srs_49
Oct 12, 2009 (4:18 pm)
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I just bought a new car. I wanted a 5 or 6 speed, and started out looking at 3-4 year old vehicles - things like used BMW 3 series or an Infinity G35. I was even entertaining a CTS. But, trying to find a manual proved to be a daunting task. I found a couple of infinity's that matched the 6-spd criteria, and one 2006 3-series at the local used car super store. At the local BMW dealership where they had an acre or two of used Bimmers, there was not a single one with a manual. Another dealer had 30+ BMW's listed in the Sunday paper, but only 4 of them were sticks. Very sad.
 
So, in the end I ended up buying a new G37S (6MT). More than I was originally planning of spending, but at least I got what I wanted.
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Re: Nary a stick to be found... [srs_49] by xwesx
Oct 12, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: srs_49 (Oct 12, 2009 4:18 pm)

Pretty car! I couldn't own something like that where I live. I would get thirty feet down my neighborhood road before I high-centered it.
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Re: Nary a stick to be found... [xwesx] by plekto
Oct 12, 2009 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Oct 12, 2009 5:10 pm)

You need a nice 4x4 Tacoma, then. Yes, it does still come with manual if you want
 
Shoot, my old truck could drive *over* a Smart Car and hardly slow down...
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Re: Nary a stick to be found... [srs_49] by nippononly
Oct 12, 2009 (10:04 pm)
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Replying to: srs_49 (Oct 12, 2009 4:18 pm)

One thing that I must admit IS true is that dealers don't put manuals on the lot. If you're looking for a used car, you pretty much have to go private party except for models that came ONLY in stick.
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Re: Nary a stick to be found... [nippononly] by srs_49
Oct 13, 2009 (3:46 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 12, 2009 10:04 pm)

Yeah, that's what I was finding. I also test drove the 2009 Impreza WRX (it was close to my original price-point), and it only comes with a manual tranny. But, Subie dealers around here only had 1, maybe 2 on the lot to test drive. Some didn't have any!
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Re: Nary a stick to be found... [srs_49] by nippononly
Oct 13, 2009 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: srs_49 (Oct 13, 2009 3:46 am)

WRXs are imported from Japan, and Subaru has been slow to restock the Japanese models post-C4C.
 
My local dealer usually has a dozen or more, right now they only have 1 or 2 just like your local dealer.
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Re: Nary a stick to be found... [plekto] by xwesx
Oct 13, 2009 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Oct 12, 2009 7:48 pm)

Not for me. Maybe an older model (mid/early '90s or older), but nowadays they make for a miserable driving experience as they are severely isolated from the road. For primary drivers, we have a Forester, which will get us through any weather, and a well-used Escort (which does drag bottom now and again!) that does pretty well, though I occasionally have to drag it up the driveway with one of the other vehicles. Both are manuals, of course!

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