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The Future Of The Manual Transmission

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USA.GOV sponsored 5 spd manual transmissions? by ruking1
Jun 25, 2009 (9:30 pm)
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FedEx Ground trucks... by shipo
Jun 26, 2009 (8:11 am)
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I think I saw a reference here just recently that said that all FedEx trucks were automatic transmission equipped. Well, I'm thinking, "Not so." Today my commuter bus into Boston passed at least two dozen white FedEx Ground trucks of about the size of a typical brown UPS delivery truck. These trucks have rear sliding doors on both sides of the driver, and due to the warm weather we're having today, at least half of the trucks had said doors open.
 
Funny thing, every single truck that I could see into was sporting a goose-neck shifter sprouting from the floor, and due to the traffic, I witnessed several of the drivers "rowing" said shifter as they moved along with the flow.
 
Best regards,
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Re: FedEx Ground trucks... [shipo] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 27, 2009 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 26, 2009 8:11 am)

Yeah... but FedEx Ground drivers are contractors... They own those trucks, not FedEx..
 
FedEx Ground is the old RPS (formerly Roadway Package Service), which FedEx acquired when they bought Caliber Systems...
 
All FedEx Express delivery trucks are automatics... And, their drivers are required to keep their driver's door shut, while moving...
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Re: FedEx Ground trucks... [kyfdx] by ruking1
Jun 27, 2009 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 27, 2009 6:28 am)

In any case, for this thread's purposes, one would be hard pressed to include any of these vehicles as part of the registered passenger vehicle fleet (as cited in NHTSA data) .
 
 It does illustrate the point that one of the major reasons why (for lack of a better word) industrial truck managers/owners etc are going to "automatics." The overwhelming majority of people who gravitate to professional driving learned on and used... automatic transmissions. Cited studies contradict the assertion the majority of drivers drove "manual" transmissions in the passenger vehicle fleet.
 
Even in this category, it illustrates manual transmissions are an "acquired" taste for almost all but big rigs; where they are considered more "standard".
 
Even 35 years ago when I got certified on tractors with 45 ft trailers (with 8 ft yoke)(currently known as divisions 1.1 thru 1.6), I needed to learn both automatic and manual transmissions.
 
(I have always known that FedEx contracts out. To NOT count those trucks are part of the defacto real delivery fleet, would not be accurately describing the operational realities. Indeed the USPO for literally decades (that I know of) contracts out hosts of services.)
 
So therefore passenger vehicle fleet manual transmissions being an "acquired" taste, aka (buying public), OEM's will continue to make them, as they forecast and fulfill the MY demands. The app 10% (some say less- but there seems a decided lack of (multiple) reliable figures) MY sales and 20% of the passenger vehicle fleet (50.08 M) are the objective (outward) manifestations of this.
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paddle shifters by carstryke
Jun 28, 2009 (1:02 pm)
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This isnt xbox you fools, paddle shifters make me LOL. Geez, car companies have terrible idea's nowadays. It wouldn't surprise me if every GM came stock with paddle shifters.
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Why... by iluvmysephia1
Jun 28, 2009 (1:07 pm)
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does something like paddle shifters make anyone at all angry? I like the ones on my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS. I like the whole car. Everything about it. No anger just a whole lotta love, brothers.
 
Rock on to some vintage Guess Who.
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Re: paddle shifters [carstryke] by ruking1
Jun 28, 2009 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: carstryke (Jun 28, 2009 1:02 pm)

Paddle shifters may make you LOL, but you are seriously behind the times. The paddle shifters have the ability to appeal to the serious OCD in some and the F1 "fantasy". You might want to go to the Corvette informational site. I am told the "automatics" have paddle shifter options.
 
MX0 6-Speed Paddle Shift Automatic Transmission
Includes 6-speed automatic transmission with steering wheel mounted paddle shifters and 2.56 axle ratio. $ 1,250. R $1,100. Inv.
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Re: I would agree [nippononly] by ateixeira
Jun 29, 2009 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 25, 2009 12:45 pm)

The Fiesta doesn't have to cost $12k, though.
 
Look at the Fit - $16k or so to start and up over $20k loaded up.
 
I bet the Fiesta adopts similar pricing, maybe just a tad less, but not $12k. I just can't imagine that at all.
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Re: I would agree [ateixeira] by nippononly
Jun 29, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 29, 2009 8:29 am)

I dunno...
 
Chrysler to build four versions of Fiat 500 for U.S. market
 
Chrysler will build and sell four versions of the tiny Fiat 500 in North America starting in 2011: a hatchback, a convertible, a station wagon and a sporty hatchback.

 
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090629/CARNEWS/906299995
 
Just how much money will they ask for the non-Abarth 500, a Fiat smaller than a Yaris? Fiesta will be going head-on with cars just like that, not to mention the $10K Versa and Accent and the $12K Yaris.
 
I think there will be non-RS versions of the Fiesta that are pretty basic in nature and very inexpensive.

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