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Automotive News & Views The Future Of The Manual Transmission
5809 messages, Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 12:30 PM
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 07, 2008 3:53 pm)
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Replying to: nortsr1 (Dec 08, 2008 3:40 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 08, 2008 7:15 am) No, unless the title has changed we are talking about "The Future Of The Manual Transmission". No one is doubting the contribution of the manual some of us just question its continued future in the mainstream US automotive industry. At the very least the future of the third pedal is in question. With 90+ percent of US cars being automatic of some form and several popular vehicles not even being offered in manual that future doesn't look too bright.
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Replying to: nortsr1 (Dec 08, 2008 3:40 am) But do they really get better mpg than their comparably sized brethren? The acceptance and adoption of diesels in the US isn't much better than the acceptance of manual transmissions, so more diesels probably isn't going to help the MT/AT ratio. What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 08, 2008 8:00 am) ..."With 90+ percent of US cars being automatic of some form and several popular vehicles not even being offered in manual that future doesn't look too bright. "... I take it you probably would agree about my post on the loss of the mph due to using auto transmissions, etc., However it does not address the post I was responding to about diesel and the higher mpg. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 08, 2008 8:07 am) ..."I just skimmed a link and promptly lost it. It said that the EU "CAFE" standard was 43 mpg. The US is at 27 (or 27.5?). Maybe that has something to do with it. Japan's mpg standard is 46 mpg. Anyone know the ratio of ATs to MTs there? (ah, here's the mpg link at the Discovery Channel) "... Our standards are 27 mpg BUT have a DEFACTO mpg rating of 22 mpg fleet wide. So without the defacto European rating, let us just compare the standards. So 27 mph is 59.3% WORSE? or 43 is (43-27=16/43=) 37.2 % better? And WE wonder why the rest of the world thinks we guzzler RUG TO PUG !!!????   : 
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 08, 2008 8:38 am) Ah, but we digress.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 07, 2008 11:16 am) LOL!! So you enjoy doing a bunch of things that AREN'T DRIVING while you are moving around town in your car? Get this man an autopilot, he's done driving for this lifetime! ROTFL! 
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 08, 2008 8:42 am) (however it is a more expansive discussion that the future of manual transmissions, you do in fact hint at it) So let me put some order to the numbers. Let's see Japan has 46 mpg standards, Europe has 43 mph standards. USA has 27 mpg standards, with a defacto of 22 mpg !!!!! WELL a slam dunk conclusion: WE ARE ...HELPING ...!!!!!! ??????  WAY too FUNNY !!!!
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 08, 2008 8:46 am)
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