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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 07, 2008 11:49 am) Is there a manual that has a higher EPA rating than a Prius? And are there any manual hybrids? Isn't that an indication of a concern for high mileage? even in Asia I understand the super high mileage cars are more than likely CVTs. That being many of the mini compacts.
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Nissan is having trouble w owners over the high failure rate of transmission failures in the new GT-R.
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 07, 2008 1:05 pm) Being as how there are no manual Prius', You can not even compare now, eh? And that is PRECISELY THE point. They do not make manual Prius' so you CAN NOT compare!?  Indeed part of the EPA change to perfectly repeatable testing procedures was the bru ha ha over the fact a LARGE % of Prius owners did/could/would NOT achieve EPA ratings of 60 city/50 highway.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 07, 2008 12:54 pm) What about my comment "As it should be !!! " precludes or disallows your satisfaction with your automatic transmission Lancer? What is at issue is (same as message 5174): (simple terms, parasitic loss) what you would get on a manual vs your current 3 mpg over the EPA with the automatic OVER . You really won't fully realize what that would be, until you put the 5 speed under the same conditions you drive your automatic. So since we know what most folks will have and have chosen, most folks demonstrate they are willing to pay MORE for categorically less fuel mileage and slightly more convenience. A corollary: some folks would flat not have a manual no matter the extra cost, mpg hit, PERIOD.
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Replying to: andys120 (Dec 07, 2008 1:09 pm) I understand that since it is a boutique limited edition, not many folks will have this issue. I also take it it is not built as tough as the Corvette's that are built to the 100 Zero to 60 launches specification before things start to break... AND break they will. They just can't guarantee what EXACTLY will break  .
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 07, 2008 11:16 am) Hmmm, that's odd; I seem to remember you making any number of posts decrying the very things you now profess to love. Consider the following snippets from posts that you made not too long ago: ============================================================ http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef6716a/39 Driving an automatic now would be like being forced to listen to Frank Sinatra tunes over and over again, when I have so much classic rock at my easy disposal in cassette tape form. Really! http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef6716a/386 Manual tranny's rule! It's cool that Ford sees fit to offer the Fusion in 5-speed manual form. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef6716a/496 So, it's really not an advantage to have a slushbox for city driving at all, is it? The manual tranny's are boss, aren't they? My next Kia will have a manual transmission and my current one has one. The Kia before the one I have now had a manual tranny as well. Starting to see a trend occurring?  http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef6716a/606 But the kind I like and will continue buying, the Rio's, Spectra's Sportage's, etc., will continue to be built with manual transmissions. It really is the only way to fly! http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef6716a/584 Seriously, though, I consider myself a car enthusiast and I love my manual-trannied Kia's! I will want manual tranny's for several more Kia's in a row, too. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef6716a/586 I will not go back to an automatic transmission! It would be like I was being forced to listen to Britney Spears music and somebody taking all of my Foghat, Guess Who and Tragically Hip cassettes and CD's and whizzing them into a nearby garbage dumpster! Seriously! http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef6716a/858 Even if those of us driving sticks would really rather not go the automatic route? I mean, driving a slushbox has got to be the most dull, unimaginative manner one could drive a decent car. ============================================================ So, I guess while you're driving, you now guzzle Diet Coke and listen to nothing but Frank Sinatra and Britney Spears, over-and-over-and-over. Question, which dumpster was blessed with your Foghat, Guess Who and Tragically Hip CDs? Best regards, Shipo
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 07, 2008 2:05 pm)  upwards of 90% manual tranmissions vs 90% of the US passenger vehicle fleet of automatic transmisions. Why do we need fuel 7.per gal US to get us to consider the savings in MPG????
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 07, 2008 3:32 pm) Japan's mpg standard is 46 mpg. Anyone know the ratio of ATs to MTs there? (ah, here's the mpg link at the Discovery Channel)
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Replying to: shipo (Dec 07, 2008 2:51 pm) What's next? Logical thought, with evidence? This will never do. You may well be the next Tim Russert (& I don't make that comparison lightly -- I was stunned when he was felled last June).
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Dec 07, 2008 5:05 pm)
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