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Automotive News & Views The Future Of The Manual Transmission
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Replying to: tallman1 (Oct 23, 2008 10:21 am) With a stick, the problem is more in terms of wear-and-tear to the joints. Knees especially. I guess it's the opposite - with an auto your legs don't move, with a manual your legs move constantly. My mom had to give up manuals due to her arthritis plus worn cartiledge on her left (clutch) knee. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 23, 2008 9:07 am) I'm not arguing that a manual is easier to drive, simpler in number of steps, or less fatiguing. Just saying that I'm a freak that cramps with an auto but not with a manual because of how each is driven. Arguing with me doesn't change that, not sure why we're still on this topic.  By the way, shifting to neutral isn't all that useful when you have to move forward every several seconds... With all these workarounds you might as well have three pedals instead of two! 
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Replying to: razorasdf (Oct 23, 2008 2:04 pm) |
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Replying to: ny540i6 (Oct 23, 2008 9:39 am) Run second all the way up to 50 mph.... Shift to sixth.... Just Kidding Why, there's something wrong with that? When I want to get moving quickly but don't want to exceed the speed limit that's exactly what I do. I very seldom run thru all 6 gears in a row. -Frank
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Replying to: p0926 (Oct 23, 2008 2:59 pm) I mean, depending on where I am I do a lot of "1-3-5-6" shifting myself.
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Replying to: ny540i6 (Oct 23, 2008 3:36 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 22, 2008 9:27 am) Thanks for not assuming what I might say but I agree pretty much with your estimate. And you know me pretty well by now. Like I said many posts ago I believe MB will be the first in the US to stop offering manuals. . You said you thought Toyota. But if the economy doesn't recover or if fuel goes back towards 5 bucks a gallon the ball game could change. If the US moves hard towards hybrids or something like them then the manual could pass from our shores even sooner. If fuel stays low or under 4 bucks then maybe hybrids will slow down. I have also said the manual has a better chance of holding on if we turn clutch control over the the car computer. With a sequencial computer clutched manual then 7 or more speeds would not be anymore of a problem than it is with a automatic. The idea you had about having to be certified in a manual is cute. You know there are more new drivers getting a license a year than there are manual drivers in our county? So who would buy the manuals to certify the new drivers on? With our state budget it sure will not be the state. With so few families owning a manual the only other choice would be to rent a manual. But here in southern California they don't even offer drivers ED so who would teach the kids to drive? Do I agree that sports cars will be the last niche of the three pedal H pattern manual? Yes, it sounds like they might be.
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Replying to: boaz47 (Oct 23, 2008 7:33 pm) That's a great sound bite... too bad it isn't true 
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Replying to: p0926 (Oct 23, 2008 8:39 pm) How could it not be true? More than Nine out of every ten families in my county drive automatics. That equates to nine out of ten households that have kids having automatics. If that ratio holds up then nine out of ten families with teenage drivers getting a license would have automatics. More than the number of manuals available. Where would the manuals come from to certify the nine out of ten drivers? Or are you telling us that there are more manual drivers than we believe? I didn't look up registered drivers in our county but I am willing to bet there aren't enough manuals in our neighborhoods to train all the teenagers in the City of Riverside alone.
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Replying to: boaz47 (Oct 23, 2008 10:38 pm)
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