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Automotive News & Views The Future Of The Manual Transmission
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probably mid-size sedans like the Accord and Altima. The Porsche SUV does come in a stick. How big is a BMW 5 series now? May not even be as big as an Accord, although it is probably heavier. |
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I have been doing a long, nasty commute with my 4 cyl 5 speed Accord for the last 2 months. For those familiar with the Philly area, this means NJ to Valeey forge, so dealing with a bridge into Philly, the full length of the Schuykill expwy, and then down 202 to Malvern. About 43 miles each way, 40 of which qualifies as highway. Problem is, the highway is somewhat erratic as to movement, especially in the PM. The morning isn't too bad, just about 55-60 minutes regularly (as long as I leave home by 6:15). There are a couple of spots that still clog up, so I spend part of that time stop/go or creeping. PM is a crapshoot. I have made it in an hour, but more normal recently is 1:20 - 1:40. That is a lot of stop/go involved, broken up by short bursts of actual movement. The record so far is 2.5 hours to make the 44 mile return trip. Basically 35 miles in the middle of solid brake lights. That day my left leg/hip was a bit tired! But overall, the stick isn't really an issue on the normal days. It helps that the Accord has a nice light clutch so you hardly notice it. And in some ways, it is easier to deal with the traffic since you don't have to worry about the AT crawl. I am looking though at a different car, but at this pint largely because I want a wagon (just got a big dog that doesn't fit well in the back seat!), and am looking for an AT this time. Partly for the commute (at least you can shift position and keep from getting as stiff), partly so the rest of the family can also drive it (wife rusty, son never learned), but largely because everything I like only comes that way! but anyway, IMO the gotta have a AN for the commute is probably a myth for the majority of people.
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Replying to: elias (Oct 12, 2008 4:23 am) Assuming that you aren't talking about SUVs and crossovers, then the BMW 5-Series Wagon (i.e. the 535xi Sport Wagon with a 6-Speed manual transmission) is probably the car that best answers your question. Best regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: stickguy (Oct 12, 2008 9:15 am) 
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Replying to: tallman1 (Oct 12, 2008 3:09 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Oct 12, 2008 8:17 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 12, 2008 8:48 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Oct 13, 2008 5:43 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 13, 2008 7:26 am) But the question is why did Toyota release it as a Automatic? If commuting hasn't contributed to Toyota's marketing of automatics in commuter cars what has? It should be easy to see the consumer is voting with their wallet and Toyota wants to get as much of that vote as they can. If Manuals were better for commuting for the average person then by logic more commuters would drive manuals. But they don't and Toyota must have figured that out.
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Replying to: boaz47 (Oct 13, 2008 3:07 pm)
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