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The Future Of The Manual Transmission

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Re: transmission manuelle [boaz47] by nippononly
Sep 25, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Sep 25, 2008 12:28 pm)

Well, I looooove Paris, visit as often as I can, but if I actually moved there I would probably give up driving completely. Fully integrated public transit and tiny crowded streets (and not just with cars) make the perfect formula for going carless.....
 
Even the delivery vans in Paris are stick shift. Long live the manual!
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Re: transmission manuelle [nippononly] by boaz47
Sep 25, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 25, 2008 12:40 pm)

There we have reached a total agreement. A great public transportation system would cut me back to only one vehicle as well. I could keep my tow vehicle for vacations but the car would see the scrap heap. I realized that I have put just about as many miles on my bicycles as I have on my Tahoe in the last two months. In fact it looks like I will put less than 9k miles on my car this year.
 
The only other country I would ever be interested in as far as moving is Spain. It is also a place where I could see using public transportation. Then who cares what transmission they use?
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Re: transmission manuelle [boaz47] by nippononly
Sep 25, 2008 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Sep 25, 2008 12:53 pm)

Yeah, I may have been a little hasty in saying I would go carless. I think I would miss having a car too much. I would probably find a place to garage one, and I would only use my car for heading out of town on weekends. The countryside around Paris is beautiful, it would be fun to go for weekend drives.
 
Here in California, the suburbs extend out 60, 80 miles from every city, effectively eliminating all places one might go for a fun weekend drive.
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Re: transmission manuelle [nippononly] by boaz47
Sep 25, 2008 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 25, 2008 12:59 pm)

" Here in California, the suburbs extend out 60, 80 miles from every city, effectively eliminating all places one might go for a fun weekend drive."
 
The weekend drive is quickly becoming politically incorrect in our state. My family used to take weekend drives where there were places to drive to just for the beauty of what we could see. Today most of those places are housing tracks, industrial complexes and entertainment centers. Todays families drive to get somewhere period.
 
Go to a party and sit around a table with a group of friends, non auto enthusiasts, and tell them you like to drive for pleasure and they will look at you like you lit a cigarette in Church. "What do you do for fun Nippon?" Oh I get in my car and take a two or three hour drive." What they hear is, "I like to burn gas for two or three hours just because I can," Drive the same two hours at Sea World, for me, or where ever you can go for you, and they will sit back and smile even if you had to spend another 200 bucks to walk around an amusement park on top of your gas.
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Re: transmission manuelle [boaz47] by cdnpinhead
Sep 25, 2008 (4:49 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Sep 25, 2008 1:20 pm)

"I like to burn gas for two or three hours just because I can,"
 
Well, I do weekend drives several times a year and often extend business trips a day or two on one end or the other, just "to burn gas for two or three days, just because". . . I like to. And, yeah, I can. Anyone who doesn't like it can stuff it.
 
In addition, I usually take one trip a year just to drive, and it's not a few hours or a few days. It's generally 9 days and sometimes longer. In 2007 I made it up to Skagway, AK, and Dawson, YT -- 7400 miles, as I recall. The road is my home & my therapy. The fact that it's currently not politically correct just makes it that much better.
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Re: transmission manuelle [cdnpinhead] by boaz47
Sep 25, 2008 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 25, 2008 4:49 pm)

"Well, I do weekend drives several times a year and often extend business trips a day or two on one end or the other, just "to burn gas for two or three days, just because". . . I like to. And, yeah, I can. Anyone who doesn't like it can stuff it. "
 
Is it your opinion this is a healthy attitude? Should more people use your method of therapy? But remember I used a hypothetical of societal pressure.
 
I used to love the good old days when I could drive my 426 Hemi and stomp my foot to the floor and lay rubber dust all over the little Chevy in the lane next to me. But we are being told that there is a fuel crisis and we should be saving gas. Automotive enthusiasts may or may not believe this but we are a small percentage of the automotive consumers.
 
I am still trying to picture 17 million new car buyers being told by their sales men, "the weekend drive is back. Buy this car and you will never have to worry how much gas you burn. In fact fuel mileage isn't important, burn all you want and if people don't like it?"
 
You sound like a person I would like to have coffee with. But do it before some tree hugger has you stoned.
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Re: transmission manuelle [cdnpinhead] by lilengineerboy
Sep 25, 2008 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 25, 2008 4:49 pm)

In addition, I usually take one trip a year just to drive, and it's not a few hours or a few days. It's generally 9 days and sometimes longer. In 2007 I made it up to Skagway, AK, and Dawson, YT -- 7400 miles, as I recall. The road is my home & my therapy. The fact that it's currently not politically correct just makes it that much better.
 
Oh it only counts if you rent a Hummer for the trip.
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Re: transmission manuelle [boaz47] by ateixeira
Sep 26, 2008 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Sep 25, 2008 12:28 pm)

How do you say CVT in French?
 
That's all Renault/Nissan seems to be sending us.
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Re: transmission manuelle [ateixeira] by nippononly
Sep 26, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 26, 2008 9:28 am)

transmission sans interruption variable? And I will never drive a car with one of those, period. I would rather walk.
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Re: transmission manuelle [nippononly] by ateixeira
Sep 26, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 26, 2008 9:48 am)

Meh, Nissan's are actually well designed. The one in my buddy's Altima isn't bad, I'd pick that over an traditional automatic.

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