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Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra Real World MPG Numbers

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E85 Mileage by nascar57
Jul 24, 2007 (6:48 am)
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Yes, Ethanol does drop the mileage that you get. I live up in North Dakota and here E85 is selling for $2.54 and regular 87 Octane gas is at $3.09. With that spread you are a little better off running the ethanol. I have figured that on my 07 silverado I need ethanol to be at least $.50/gallon cheaper to make it even out. After that it works out, too bad that there isnt something that can be added to ethanol to bump the energy content.
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Re: E85 Mileage [nascar57] by bkerchak
Aug 18, 2007 (1:22 am)
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Replying to: nascar57 (Jul 24, 2007 6:48 am)

Just paid $2.57 a gallon for 87 octane and prices should continue to drop until hurricane Dean hits land and then the refineries will say that there is another shortage.... with 1500 miles on my 07 4x2 with 3.23 ratio and the 4.8 v-8....I am getting almost 17 city and right around 21 highway....the same mileage that I got with my 92 Sonoma with the 4.3 v-6....I was told at he dealership that I should use Shell gasoline because they still put detergents in their fuels....If you don't use Shell they told us to add a fuel injector cleaner to the tank.....any thoughts on this ?
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Why does the NBS get less real world mpg? by zeeboy
Aug 18, 2007 (6:14 am)
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I've been searching for 4.8l/3.23 mileage and it seems like a few years ago seeing 17-20 real world mpg (mixed) was the norm.
 
Now the NBS seems to get 13-16 mpg?
 
What changed on the regular cab to drop the mileage? I'm aware the new EPA ratings changed, but again I'm looking at owner's report mpg.
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Unimpressed with active fuel management by olz442
Aug 18, 2007 (7:42 pm)
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Getting the rated 18 city 22 highway with my Canyon, I was looking forward to getting similar numbers with a 2007 V8 Sierra thanks to the "advertised" active fuel management. So, since no one locally had a regular cab 4x4, I just drove 900 miles round trip to take advantage of the current rebate to "buy" my new Sierra.
 
After getting there, the wife and I naturally went for a long test drive and I placed the dash display in AFM readout mode. Once the vehicle got past about 62 MPH, AFM never engaged once. Never leaving V8 mode, the instantaneous mileage varied from 13-19mpg with the vehicle on cruise control about 68mph. Now, if you drop below about 62MPH, then the AFM would engage and you would see a noticeable instantaneous mpg difference when it would enter V4.
 
Question: How many people cruise down the highway below 62mph?
 
The sales person called his GM certified tech who responded by saying especially the 4x4s require all 8 cylinders above about that speed. Sadly, I drove back home with my Canyon but at least I learned of this during the test drive instead of after the purchase. I personally find this to be false or certainly misleading advertising. My '99 Sierra 5.3 V8 would get 16 city 20 highway without AFM. The 2007 ranging between 13 and 19 mpg on cruise control at 68mph, there's no way it's ever going to get 20 highway without a BIG asterisk *Below 62mph only. And this was just a regular cab version that's 600 pounds lighter than the extended cab and 700 pounds lighter than the crew. I can't imagine what kind of mileage they're going to get.
 
Any chance GM would refund my trip expenses ?
 
Thought those of you in the market should keep this in mind so you don't learn the hard way. I've seen others on this forum and elsewhere complaining about horrible mileage and just attributed it to lead-foot syndrome. I think they're just unfortunately experiencing in ownership what I saw during my test drive. When you're on cruise control, it's hard to blame your right foot.
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Re: Unimpressed with active fuel management [olz442] by harrybackman
Sep 04, 2007 (7:57 pm)
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Replying to: olz442 (Aug 18, 2007 7:42 pm)

First of all, that's not true. I admit, over 75, it hardly ever kicks in. my new 07, purchased 3 weeks ago went on a 200 mile trip last weekend at 65, I was in V4 mode for 50% of the trip getting 22ish mpg. this is a 4x4 quad cab Z71 too. honestly, the biggest problem I have with milage is that i can't keep my foot away from those ponies.
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MPG-Real World Numbers by bobw1
Sep 07, 2007 (7:42 pm)
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I am looking at a 2008 4x2 Silverado with the 5.3 engine. Should I get the iron block version or the flex fuel one? Will there be a difference in MPG or engine life or performance? Thanks...
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Re: Unimpressed with active fuel management [harrybackman] by olz442
Sep 11, 2007 (10:09 pm)
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Replying to: harrybackman (Sep 04, 2007 7:57 pm)

Though I'm thrilled you're apparently getting yours to actually go into V4 mode above 62, saying what I said is a lie is completely irresponsible. I drove 900 miles round trip to buy a new Sierra based on believing that AFM worked as advertised. The fact is that both going out and coming back on a LONG test drive with cruise control set to 68MPH, the truck never once entered V4 mode and I was getting instantaneous mileage between 13-19. You can't blame a lead foot when the cruise is set to 68 and you can't blame hills or the wind when it does it both directions. As I backed the cruise control down, when I would hit about 62MPH the truck would start to very intermittently go in and out of V4 and below 60 would go in and out frequently. That IS what happened. Period. What possible motive would I have to lie? That is after all the reason the new Sierra remained on the lot and the wife and I returned home in our Canyon. I thought others should know for those that think believable gas mileage is as important part of a new vehicle purchase as I do and maybe just maybe this technology has a few holes in it yet since others are complaining about horrible mileage too. I'll keep driving my Canyon in the meantime that actually hits and sometimes exceeds its MPG rating. Just got 23.5 on a trip to/from Colorado in it 70MPH and it's only rated at 22 HW.
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Re: Unimpressed with active fuel management [olz442] by 1offroader
Sep 12, 2007 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: olz442 (Sep 11, 2007 10:09 pm)

I am very impressed with the mpg on my 2007 4x4 crew cab z71 w/6.0 L engine. On a 350 mi. trip shortly after I bought the truck I got 18.2 mpg overall. This is before the engine was even broken in. On another note the on-board computer is very accurate. It showed 18.2, and I calculated 18.2 based on my fill-up.
 
The truck frequently goes into afm mode below 70 mph, and occasionally between 70-75 mph. 74-75 mph seems to be the cutoff where the afm won't engage any more. I think it would easily meet (or exceed) the 19 mpg highway rating if I stayed at 65. BTW my trip was mostly in cruise control. That is key to getting good mpg. The trip also included about 10% mountain driving, but it is interstate thru those mtns. and the speeds were about 70 mph.
 
In lousy stop-n-go Los Angeles traffic I get 14-15, which is as good as I can expect.
 
AFM really works. As long as it is reliable, I am sold on it.
 
I recently bought a pop-up trailer, approx. 2400 lbs. empty. I am curious what my mpg will be while towing. Will post when I have some data.
 
1offroader
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Re: Unimpressed with active fuel management [1offroader] by summitx02
Sep 13, 2007 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: 1offroader (Sep 12, 2007 7:12 pm)

1offroader, I'm getting good results too - I got an 07 Crew Cab MAX with 4:10 gearing, but I lifted it 3" and put on 33"s so I'm at about 3.85 effective ratio. Still, I got 17 mpg on a recent 600 mile trip which included a lot of "hammer time" passing RV's, mountain passes, hills, etc. I think I could have squeaked out 18 if I had been gentle. I'm getting about 14-15 in town easy driving.
 
The bottom line is that there will always be some flat driving, downhill time, tail winds, etc where the AFM will engage and save fuel. I've actually seen it engage while pulling my 5000# Camper. There will also be times when you'll never see AFM engage - High speed highway driving, hot day - AC running all the time, head wind etc. Still, I'm sold on the technology.
 
One potential problem is that the system does not rotate the cylinders that it disengages... i.e. the same 4 cylinders always turn off. Over time, will the uneven wear cause problems? With the tight tolerances and better materials used in these new engines, it may never be an issue, but my instincts lead me to believe that it could be.... Time will tell
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Re: Unimpressed with active fuel management [summitx02] by 1offroader
Sep 14, 2007 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: summitx02 (Sep 13, 2007 8:37 am)

summit
 
The issue of uneven cylinder wear should not be a problem. The pistons in those cylinders are still moving up and down - they have to, they're connected to the crank shaft. They just aren't drawing in fuel and firing because the valves are de-activated. I wouldn't worry about uneven wear, that's not going to be a problem IMO.
 
1offroader

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