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#1 of 9 Is the Lupo 80MPG/3L a "hybrid" car? by electrictroy

Mar 09, 2005 (11:10 am)

It has the ability to turn itself off when stopped, but the electric starter/motor does not move the car or provide assist.
 
Does that make it a hybrid? Or not?
 
Why?
 
troy

#2 of 9 Does it have a battery pack which stores and uses by larsb

Mar 09, 2005 (11:38 am)

If it has a battery pack which stores REGEN energy and uses that electricity to provide some functionality to the car or the owner, then I'd say it's a hybrid car.
 
Hybrid does not necessarily mean "propel the car with more than one drivetrain" does it?

#3 of 9 Seems like the Lupo qualifies if it has a two power sources on board by larsb

Mar 09, 2005 (11:41 am)

from dictionary.com:
 
"an automobile with more than one power source, such as an electric motor and internal combustion engine or an electric motor with battery and fuel cells for energy storage; also called hybrid vehicle"

#4 of 9 NO by electrictroy

Mar 10, 2005 (6:55 am)

The Lupo doesn't store anything (no regenerative braking). It merely shuts itself off.
 
troy

#5 of 9 If it does not store power and has only one power source by larsb

Mar 10, 2005 (7:16 am)

If it does not store power and has only one power source, then I cant see how it meets even the mildest of hybrid requirements.
 
I guess merely putting an ISG in a car does not make it a hybrid.....

#6 of 9 Here's a 240 mpg hybrid by electrictroy

Mar 10, 2005 (12:22 pm)

Check out this 240 mpg car. It DOES have regenerative braking, although it uses a kind of flywheel mechanism instead.
 
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/gw/vw1litre.htm

#7 of 9 California Lupo? by lorax

Jul 10, 2005 (11:44 am)

Does anyone know if there are any loopholes that would allow one to import and drive a Lupo in the state of California? Are there exemptions for research or any other angles
that might work?
 
I'm interested in going to biodiesel but would prefer a higher efficiency vehicle.
 
fmc

#8 of 9 Re: California Lupo? [lorax] by gagrice

Jul 10, 2005 (2:00 pm)

Replying to: lorax (Jul 10, 2005 11:44 am)
I would send a letter to CARB & the governor. It is a long shot, but who knows what will happen..

#9 of 9 Re: California Lupo? [gagrice] by stevedebi

Jul 11, 2005 (12:50 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Jul 10, 2005 2:00 pm)
"I would send a letter to CARB & the governor. It is a long shot, but who knows what will happen.."
 
It doesn't matter what the CARB and the Governator say. Federal law restricts imports to those that have gone through the EPA and safety testing. Many of the small cars of Europe would not pass the crash testing here in the USA, or would require extensive modifications to pass. These mods typically add weight and expense to the car; most auto manufacturors either design "world cars" that match US and international specs, or just don't import the cars.

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