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#46 of 752 Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [sganarelle] by gagrice Apr 02, 2005 (3:59 pm)
Anybody who has read the prius boards for more than two weeks knows that you are on a holy crusade to prove that hybrids are a bad idea You are obviously a newcomer to the Forum so, welcome. If you followed the hybrid threads since 2000 as I have you would know that I was an early proponent for the Prius and hybrid technologies. I still consider the Insight the best commuter car available in this country. The HCH has a better overall reliability record if people posting are letting us know any problems they are having. The Prius has had many problems whether you have had any or not. There are people trying to invoke the lemon law in CA on the Prius. You can pick any car from any country and go to the appropriate thread. I dare say you will not find a vehicle that has gotten towed to the dealerships in the last year as much as the Prius. They do die for no apparent reason and the dealers are just doing a reset on the control computer and hoping the trouble will not return. There is a reason that Toyota ranks so poorly on the customer service ratings at JD Powers. They are poor at taking care of customer problems. All cars have problems from time to time. It is how it is handled by the dealers that leaves a lasting image in your mind. Replies to this message: falconone (Apr 02, 2005 7:01 pm) gagrice (Apr 02, 2005 10:35 pm) falconone (Apr 03, 2005 9:35 am) and 3 more...
#47 of 752 Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [gagrice] by falconone Apr 02, 2005 (7:01 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Apr 02, 2005 3:59 pm) The Prius has an exemplary record from what I have read online. I also happen to follow other boards which support this as well. I have NO idea where you get your information, but you definitely are not right on this one. I surely agree that ANY vehicle can have its share of problems, but overall, the Prius has enjoyed a very good service record. Replies to this message: gagrice (Apr 02, 2005 10:35 pm) falconone (Apr 03, 2005 9:35 am) gagrice (Apr 03, 2005 2:13 pm) and 2 more...
#48 of 752 Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [falconone] by gagrice Apr 02, 2005 (10:35 pm)
Replying to: falconone (Apr 02, 2005 7:01 pm) but overall, the Prius has enjoyed a very good service record. How do you explain the posters that have had their new Prius towed when it just quits? I doubt you will find another car on Edmund's with as many DOA failures as the Prius. I'm sure you have read all the cases of the car just quitting. Is that to be expected? I have read every post on the hybrid boards and the Prius is not the jewel in Toyota's crown. Even some of the real diehard Prius fans admit that there are issues with the car. My complaint is not as much with the Prius as with Toyota not accepting the problems. I have never heard of so many cases where the dealer was clueless about a problem with a car. PS There are 5 cases on this thread that is less than a month old. If I was researching a car and that many all-out failures occured in one month that car would be scratched off my list. You can go back a year on the VW TDI boards and not find that many total failures, where the car was towed to the dealer. Replies to this message: falconone (Apr 03, 2005 9:35 am) gagrice (Apr 03, 2005 2:13 pm) jprice (Apr 03, 2005 10:48 pm)
#49 of 752 Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [gagrice] by falconone Apr 03, 2005 (9:35 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Apr 02, 2005 10:35 pm) Compared to the people that DO have this car there is NOT a problem, otherwise there would be a TSB issued. I know numerous people personally that own this vehicle and they have never ever had any problems. Just because a few people complain, it does not mean that there is a problem. Granted, the service people are clueless, but most vehicles today are quite complicated pieces of machinery. Regardless of your useless posts, hybrids are here to stay, so just get used to it old man. Replies to this message: gagrice (Apr 03, 2005 2:13 pm)
#51 of 752 Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [falconone] by gagrice Apr 03, 2005 (2:13 pm)
Replying to: falconone (Apr 03, 2005 9:35 am) there is NOT a problem, otherwise there would be a TSB issued. I may be old but I can still read. See post #44 that poster claims there are 18 TSB's on the Prius II. ceric, "Toyota Prius Software Problems" #44, 2 Apr 2005 5:51 am