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Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [joebeatt] by mb1
Mar 28, 2005 (2:12 pm)

Replying to: joebeatt (Mar 15, 2005 11:28 pm)

Window was released in 1995 not 1985 are you thinking msdos? Sheesh get your dates right will ya? Lived it!
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Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [mb1] by stevedebi
Mar 28, 2005 (2:27 pm)

Replying to: mb1 (Mar 28, 2005 2:12 pm)

Hmmm, I think the run-time version of windows 1.0 was available around 1986. I know I got MS Excel with Windows 2.1 run time in 1988. So I imagine the first version os Windows was around 1985-1986...
 
Windows 95 was introduced in 1995... Windows was earlier.
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Watch the topic drift! by pf_flyer HOST
Mar 28, 2005 (2:54 pm)
I know it's easy to branch off into other trains of thought in the forums, but THINK CARS!!
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Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [stevedebi] by gagrice
Mar 28, 2005 (3:17 pm)

Replying to: stevedebi (Mar 28, 2005 2:27 pm)

Your dates are right on. The issue is, the blue screen of death is nothing compared to your car stopping from 70 mph in the left lane, on the 405 freeway during rush hours. This is happening more than any other car I can remember researching. What has Toyota done to correct the software bug?
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Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [mb1] by joebeatt
Mar 29, 2005 (7:52 am)

Replying to: mb1 (Mar 28, 2005 2:12 pm)

*** Window was released in 1995 not 1985 are you thinking msdos? Sheesh get your dates right will ya? Lived it! ***
 
http://www.computerhope.com/history/windows.htm
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Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [gagrice] by boysboysboys
Mar 29, 2005 (9:29 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 28, 2005 3:17 pm)

Actually this did just happen to my husband yesterday outside DC on the HOV lanes on I-395, in a contruction zone. Talk about scary. The tow operator, as well as a Toyota salesman, both admitted that they've seen several of these models die like this within the last month.
 
So, any advice on what to say/how to deal with the dealership on getting this fixed?
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Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [boysboysboys] by gagrice
Mar 29, 2005 (10:25 am)

Replying to: boysboysboys (Mar 29, 2005 9:29 am)

any advice on what to say/how to deal with the dealership on getting this fixed?
 
Welcome to the forum. My advice would be the same as others on this thread have urged. Report this to the NHTSA soon. They will compile the reports and force Toyota to do something. Toyota will not let out how serious the problem is. Toyota may be working on it. Everyone that has experienced this so far were told by the dealership that they had not heard of any such problem. It sounds pretty widespread, and a very dangerous bug in the Prius firmware. Just reseting the system is not going to fix the problem, only put it off till another time. If it does not get taken care of before the warranty is up you may be facing a big repair bill, or in the case of one owner body work.
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Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [boysboysboys] by stevedebi
Mar 29, 2005 (4:51 pm)

Replying to: boysboysboys (Mar 29, 2005 9:29 am)

"Actually this did just happen to my husband yesterday outside DC on the HOV lanes on I-395, in a contruction zone. Talk about scary. The tow operator, as well as a Toyota salesman, both admitted that they've seen several of these models die like this within the last month.
  
So, any advice on what to say/how to deal with the dealership on getting this fixed?"
 
That is the purpose of this thread. Contact the NHTSB and report the incident. When enough reports are accumlated, they will open an incident investigation. Once that occurs, it will hit the press, causing some publicity problems for Toyota.
 
Unfortunately, I don't think Toyota put in any software error reporting capabilities (other than a simple error code, which doesn't help a programmer find the problem). Windows includes a feature that allows the user to send information back to Microsoft when something fails. Those reports provide exact data to the programmer, who then can work on the problem.
 
Eventually, Toyota will probably have to insert code into the system that traps information about what the software is doing when it fails (or else they will program some special test cars with this information), in the hopes that they can find the problems.
 
It would appear at this time that Toyota is merely reprogramming the Prius with the same (flawed) code that failed the first time.

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