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#1 of 113 Automotive Science or Voodoo? by Mr_Shiftright HOST Mar 05, 2005 (10:01 am)
This will be a catch-all forum for new automotive products that are making impressive claims for fuel mileage, engine life, paint protection, horsepower---you name it!   Hopefully, you'll post links to these products and we can discuss their scientific merits or de-merits, or if you aren't a scientist or technician, the "logic" of these claims.   Any other references to laboratory results or, on the bad side, legal actions, would also be appreciated.   Have fun!   Mrshiftright Host Replies to this message: dialm4speed (Mar 06, 2005 4:06 am) 0patience (Mar 16, 2005 9:44 pm) dialm4speed (Mar 17, 2005 7:04 pm) and 3 more... john500 (Mar 18, 2005 8:01 am) and 9 more... dmcvickar (Oct 06, 2006 3:37 pm) isellhondas (Oct 10, 2006 11:49 am) Mr_Shiftright (Oct 11, 2006 7:17 am)
#2 of 113 Militec - 1 by bennyboy1 Mar 05, 2005 (2:13 am)
what do yall think of this anyone know if it is for real or a crock? http://www.frictiontechnology.com/
#3 of 113 first impressions... by Mr_Shiftright HOST Mar 05, 2005 (10:12 am)
Some of the claims seem quite...er...extraordinary.
#4 of 113 got another one for you by Mr_Shiftright HOST Mar 05, 2005 (1:35 pm)
when you're done with Militec....   http://www.mybiopro.com/product_econogaschip.aspx?ID=global Replies to this message: mvls1 (Mar 05, 2005 2:08 pm)
#5 of 113 Re: got another one for you [Mr_Shiftright] by mvls1 Mar 05, 2005 (2:08 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 05, 2005 1:35 pm) Militec? maybeeeee - Biochip? snake oil via multilevel marketing (two scams for the price of one)!
#6 of 113 K&N Air Filters by mvls1 Mar 05, 2005 (2:15 pm)
claim to boost gas mileage by increasing air flow to combustion chamber. Anyone know anything about this? I see them sold at various domestic and import dealerships parts departments, so I am guessing that they do not void the original vehicle warranty. Is that also correct? Comments please. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 05, 2005 9:53 pm) dialm4speed (Mar 06, 2005 3:46 am) gagrice (Apr 23, 2005 7:20 am) dialm4speed (Mar 06, 2005 3:49 am) alcan (Mar 06, 2005 5:02 am) mvls1 (Mar 06, 2005 8:26 am) trueus (Jun 06, 2005 4:52 pm)
#7 of 113 Re: K&N Air Filters [mvls1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Mar 05, 2005 (9:53 pm)
Replying to: mvls1 (Mar 05, 2005 2:15 pm) I've tried K&Ns three times on three different cars, and was not able to measure any gas mileage improvement on any of the cars. I did it carefully, too. As for more power, it "sounded" better but I can't say there was anything really going on. The ex-perts say that any HP gain with K&Ns comes at very high RPM, and is maybe 1% on a big displacement engine and pretty negligible on a small displacement engine.   But it is reasonable, I think, to support a claim for a little gain, because the factory engineers used a stock air filter, which is generally a bit more restrictive, since they don't want the car sounding like a vacuum cleaner every time you step on the gas. Replies to this message: dialm4speed (Mar 06, 2005 3:46 am) gagrice (Apr 23, 2005 7:20 am)
#8 of 113 Re: K&N Air Filters [Mr_Shiftright] by dialm4speed Mar 06, 2005 (3:46 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 05, 2005 9:53 pm) So that's what that noise is! Everytime I stand on it I can definately hear it.
#9 of 113 Re: K&N Air Filters [mvls1] by dialm4speed Mar 06, 2005 (3:49 am)
Replying to: mvls1 (Mar 05, 2005 2:15 pm) K & N filters are great. Yes they are expensive but you never have to buy another air filter again. And they do give performance cars a boost.
#10 of 113 Re: Automotive Science or Voodoo? [Mr_Shiftright] by dialm4speed Mar 06, 2005 (4:06 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 05, 2005 10:01 am) Have you ever heard of or tried www.blueskycleanair.com   I also would like everyone's opinion on this new device. I cannot say where I got this info from or what very well known company is going to make it. Maybe you've heard about it too?   A device that filters the incoming air and turns it in to pure oxygen resulting in increased horsepower. Replies to this message: 0patience (Mar 16, 2005 9:44 pm) dialm4speed (Mar 17, 2005 7:04 pm) 0patience (Mar 17, 2005 8:32 pm) and 2 more... john500 (Mar 18, 2005 8:01 am) dialm4speed (Mar 18, 2005 9:12 pm) and 8 more... dmcvickar (Oct 06, 2006 3:37 pm) isellhondas (Oct 10, 2006 11:49 am) Mr_Shiftright (Oct 11, 2006 7:17 am)

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