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Karl Brauer is the Editor in Chief of Edmunds.com, which means he finds himself in a different vehicle almost every day of the week. If you want a daily road test review regarding the latest cars and trucks to hit the market, along with commentary on everything from auto industry happenings to L.A. drivers to his latest close encounter with Johnny Law, this is the place to be.
 


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Re: American Exotics -- Corvette Z06, Ford GT, Dodge Viper [kevm14] by editor_karl
Oct 27, 2005 (2:25 pm)

Replying to: kevm14 (Oct 27, 2005 6:51 am)

Who was driving? You? If it was you, I'd argue that you're more familiar with the handling dynamics of the GT.
 
No, we had a hot shoe who doesn't even work at Edmunds/Inside Line do the driving. He will also be writing the story. He regularly drives various late-model cars on test tracks as part of his job, but he had never driven the GT or current-generation Z06 or Viper before his time at the track. Made for a great "How easy are these cars to drive for people who haven't already mastered them?" test.
 
For obvious reasons I didn't want to be involved with writing or scoring this test.
 
Especially since I already know the GT is the best car...
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all these speeds by explorerx4
Oct 27, 2005 (2:35 pm)
vehicle transmissions are getting to be like bicycles. when are going to get up to 15-18 speeds? my big question is why?
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Re: all these speeds [explorerx4] by kevm14
Oct 27, 2005 (2:49 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 27, 2005 2:35 pm)

I think 6-speeds is ideal (at most) for a manual. Automatics, whatever. If the computer shifts, it doesn't really bother me. But, I don't see a good reason for, say, a 7-speed auto instead of a CVT in theory. In practice, I suspect it's easier to build a complex 7-speed automatic for powerful heavy cars (MB) than it is to build a CVT for the same application (???).
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Re: all these speeds [kevm14] by explorerx4
Oct 27, 2005 (4:32 pm)

Replying to: kevm14 (Oct 27, 2005 2:49 pm)

from what i have read, cvt's are very complex and expensive. i still don't know why a 6, 7, or 8 speed auto is better than a 4 or 5 speed.
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Re: all these speeds [explorerx4] by kevm14
Oct 27, 2005 (4:58 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 27, 2005 4:32 pm)

Same way a 4 or 5 speed is better than a 2 or 3 speed, just incrementally so. And assuming the same levels of efficiency, a CVT is better than any discrete speed auto...
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Re: all these speeds [kevm14] by carlisimo
Oct 27, 2005 (5:32 pm)

Replying to: kevm14 (Oct 27, 2005 4:58 pm)

I have a four speed, and I will vouch for its inadequacy.
 
I'd rather have five than six though, so that combined with R you only have three rows of shift gates, and they don't end up crowded close together. Not that I've ever tried a 6spd.
 
Now, if you're varying your speed between 0 and 200mph, more gears makes a lot of sense.
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Re: American Exotics -- Corvette Z06, Ford GT, Dodge Viper [editor_karl] by navigator89
Oct 27, 2005 (10:35 pm)

Replying to: editor_karl (Oct 27, 2005 2:25 pm)

Editor Karl,
 
Have you seen the topless Ford GT pictures? It looks awesome!!!!
 
All car manufacturers it seems first release some fancy exotic, and a drop top a a bit ater. BMW did that with the M6, and Ford with the Mustang.
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Re: hey Karl [bigdaddycoats] by nitromax
Oct 28, 2005 (2:26 am)

Replying to: bigdaddycoats (Oct 27, 2005 11:11 am)

I do not think this is the 2007 Envoy -
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=107665
rather it is the upcoming Acadia based on the Lambada paltform.
At least that is the consensus at a GM enthusiast site.

 
I thought the Lamabada platform was forbidden.
 
 
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Re: hey Karl [nitromax] by ateixeira
Oct 28, 2005 (7:30 am)

Replying to: nitromax (Oct 28, 2005 2:26 am)

I can't wait for the Macarena platform.
 
-juice
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Re: hey Karl [nitromax] by volvodan1
Oct 28, 2005 (7:48 am)

Replying to: nitromax (Oct 28, 2005 2:26 am)

Rarely does anything make me laugh out loud. That was great!

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