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Re: Jan Sales [seloo] by aan1234
Feb 08, 2009 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Feb 08, 2009 5:36 pm)

Seloo,
 
I really meant 'invoice-minus-rebates' when I said 'I was offered invoice'.
So it is a good starting point but I don't know how far I can go from here.
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Re: Jan Sales [aan1234] by seloo
Feb 09, 2009 (3:21 am)
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Replying to: aan1234 (Feb 08, 2009 8:39 pm)

Got it.
 
Yes, there is more room for negotiations before you get to the vehicle's 'net cost'. If Ford is not providing any factory to dealer support, then you have 3-5% to work with (holdback, etc..). If they are providing dealer support then the % could be higher. Additionally, if the car is costing the dealer to keep it on the lot, they may be willing to let it go at a loss to avoid another interest payment.
 
From this point forward expect negotiations to become tougher. Also watch out for extra fees and keep your trade (if you have one) out of the deal until you get the price of the car finalized.
 
Remember time is on your side!
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Re: Jan Sales [seloo] by aan1234
Feb 09, 2009 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: seloo (Feb 09, 2009 3:21 am)

Thanks, seloo.
 
Interenstinly, when I bought Outback '08 in early 2007, I got $500 under invoice (no rebates were available, no real negotiations either) and better financing than it was available for the model - 1.9% instead of 2.9% available, just like for '07 models.
No trade-in, $399 doc fee.
 
How do they manage deals like this? Dealers weren't desperate in early 2007.
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Re: Jan Sales [aan1234] by aan1234
Feb 09, 2009 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: aan1234 (Feb 09, 2009 9:30 am)

Another question - how to deal with doc fees. Are they negotiable?
They are getting ridiculous! A few years ago they were $99 and now all dealers around have $399 and some even $499 fees. Can I refuse to pay it and register vehicle myself? Shouldn't be a big deal. Even if I spend a whole day for that - I am not getting paid $50/hour after tax.
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Re: Jan Sales [aan1234] by seloo
Feb 09, 2009 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: aan1234 (Feb 09, 2009 9:37 am)

Just know that the invoice price is not the true dealer cost for a vehicle. There are numerous factors involved (holdback, prep, volume kick-backs, factory to dealer cash, etc...)
 
As for extra fees, I refuse to pay them. Sometimes they can be a deal breaker depending on the dealer. The are completely negotiable!
 
Good Luck!
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Canadian prices..Just bought one by CanadianBuyer
Feb 09, 2009 (7:08 pm)
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I just bought an early Taurus X SEL FWD with most of the optional equipment included, cloth seats.
 
There are not too many used TXs for sale in Canada right now, but I thought I could give a little perspective from this side of the border, as it might (a first, I'm sure) actually benefit those of you in the Northern States to come to Canada to buy.
 
I just got mine with around 19K miles for $18000 CDN + a $350 dealer fee. With the exchange rate right now, you can knock off another 17% for the equivalent in US $$.
 
The dealer's list price was $24000. It was bought from auction in Aug 08. I don't know what they might have purchased it for from the auction.
 
Of course, the speedometer will be in Kilometers per hour instead of miles.....
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Re: Jan Sales [seloo] by seloo
Feb 10, 2009 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: seloo (Feb 09, 2009 3:56 pm)

There are new 08 TX LTDs for sale on autotrader for close to $7K off MSRP. This equals to invoice price-rebate-some of the holdback. To make this car a good value, Ford needs to give the dealers $3-4K of factory to dealer cash, so you can match some of the $10-11K off MSRP deals offered on the Mazda CX9.
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New TX Prices by seloo
Feb 16, 2009 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: seloo (Feb 10, 2009 6:33 am)

Update: Incentives in the NE part of the country are up to $4500.
 
Here is the current situation:
 
Dealers:
 
- Invoice Price - Rebates is a standard deal for this car.
 
- Dealers still have at a minimum 3% holdback on these cars (roughly $1K).
 
- To date, Ford has not provided any additional factory to dealer incentives on this car.
 
- Sales for this car continue to be extremely slow.
 
Ford's current strategy is to slowly reduce the inventory through cash incentives.
 
Buyers:
 
- Due to its extremly poor resale value, buyers (in large numbers) are not motivated to purchase this car (even at invoice price - rebates).
 
- The TX used car market is keeping some new car buyers out of the market.
 
It is a waiting game!
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Used 2008 TX market by jgir
Feb 16, 2009 (1:41 pm)
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I've been watching the market for used 2008 Taurus' and it seems like the dealers aren't buying any more. Not much change in the selection since December. Maybe a couple cars per month within 50 miles of my house (central MA).
 
Are they just piling up in the auction house parking lots? Are owners (mostly rental outfits) just holding onto them instead of sending them to auction? Are there better sites than Cars.com and Vehix.com to find them?
 
Thanks,
 
Jim
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Re: Used 2008 TX market [jgir] by seloo
Feb 16, 2009 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: jgir (Feb 16, 2009 1:41 pm)

Jim,
 
Good questions.
 
Ford sold 19,000 fewer new units of this model in 2008 (45% decline from the year before), where are those unsold cars?
 
There are some on the dealers lots, but I do not think there are 19,000 new TXs on the lots.
Maybe corporate fleets?
Does anyone know?
Does anyone know the total TX production for 2008?
 
Based on last year's sales numbers, I am guessing that about 3,500 new units were produced monthly???
 
I understand that Ford slowed production in the 4th Qtr, they may account for about 2-4K of the units, that still leaves about 15,000 unsold units. Of the units sold last years, about 55% was to corporate/rental fleets, that means about 12,000 units are coming to the used car market after they have been in service for 8-12 months.
 
Also check autotrader and myride. Some dealers are cutting back on advertisement, you may need to go directly to the dealership' s web site to find these cars.
 
Good Luck!

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