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What is this discussion about? Ford Freestyle, Ford Taurus X, Wagon, SUV


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Re: 09 TX Limited [all32] by seloo
Jan 25, 2009 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: all32 (Jan 25, 2009 4:44 pm)

Enjoy your car and do not look back!
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Jan Sales by seloo
Jan 31, 2009 (7:10 am)
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More bad news for the TX:
 
"A steep drop in sales to rental car companies and other fleet buyers is expected to weigh heavily on carmakers when they report their January sales results Tuesday."
 
Fleet sales were the largest consumer of this car.
 
Now is not the time to buy a new TX!
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Re: Jan Sales [seloo] by 3kidsinback
Feb 01, 2009 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 31, 2009 7:10 am)

Just bought a '08 SEL AWD for 16800 with 16 K a few weeks ago, inservice date 3/08 with the convenience package and leather. Rental. Love the car, drives like "butter". All of my kids fit and they love it. Stability control, consumer reports reliability ratings were the selling point for me. I think the sticker was 31K. Hard to predict the future so I got it now. I ran across a '07 Freestyle Limited with 80 miles; it was from a dealer that closed and lost its inventory. They wanted 20K for it. Could this be an indication what the current "old store stock" will sell for in a few months?
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Re: Jan Sales [3kidsinback] by sspresto
Feb 02, 2009 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: 3kidsinback (Feb 01, 2009 7:38 pm)

Bought ours this weekend -- an '08 EB AWD, ex rental in service 3/08, 14.5k miles, with sunroof, heated seats and SYNC, for $19,100. Saw a loaded LTD with over 17k that was very nice but dealer wouldn't budge on its $25k price. Hard to tell for sure, but the EB seems to have a softer ride and steering than the LTD (maybe its the firmer LTD seats). We're very happy with the car and the deal. With one of our three kids away at school, we no longer needed the minivan but still need a third row once in a while so this was perfect for us. I'm very impressed with the efficient use of space - a friend with a Navigator thought the TX was roomier. And my 16 yr old daughter thinks its cool - go figure! Thanks to all for the helpful info here.
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Re: Jan Sales by seloo
Feb 03, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: sspresto (Feb 02, 2009 6:56 pm)

Another bad month for the TX.
 
Taurus X 879 2,234 -60.7 (Month) 879 2,234 -60.7 (YTD)
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Re: Jan Sales [seloo] by seloo
Feb 06, 2009 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: seloo (Feb 03, 2009 5:16 pm)

With wholesale prices declining much faster than retail prices, dealers are using the pricing gap to make more profit.
 
I am seeing alot of $4K plus mark-ups on TXs.
 
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Re: Jan Sales [seloo] by aan1234
Feb 06, 2009 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Feb 06, 2009 3:26 am)

I was offered yesterday without any serious negotiations invoice (~$27000) minus rebates ($2500 and $500) for a new 2009 TX SEL with SYNC as the only option. Which comes to ~$24500 without Ford financing or ~$24000 with. Plus $399 doc fees and tax, title, etc.
How much lower I can go from here?
 
Also, there are not many TX '09 in the area - I found 4-5 and total 8 in the state. The one I was looking at is the cheapest and closest to what I like (I would take SYNC out and add heated seats and homelink). But there a quite a few TX '08 (30+) to chose from. TX '08 has $3500 rebate. Is it a good idea? What should be a realistic price target?
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Re: Jan Sales [aan1234] by seloo
Feb 08, 2009 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: aan1234 (Feb 06, 2009 1:19 pm)

Facts:
 
Sales of this model have been extremely slow (check previous posts).
 
Current rebates are not clearing the current inventory.
 
This model is being discontinued at the end of this month.
 
When Ford discontinued the Freestyle, it added huge incentive to clear the lots.
 
Cars like the CX-9 and Veracruz are selling for $8-11K off MSRP.
 
Used 08 TXs are selling for 1/2 or more off MSRP at the car auctions (extremly poor resale value, worst in class)
 
Opinion:
 
This is not a bad car.
 
At the currently prices(incentives), a new TX is not a good value.
 
To clear the lots of unsold 08 and 09s, Ford will need huge incentives on this car.
 
Car sales and prices will continue to decline in 09.
 
It is just a matter of time, before supply and demand factors will cause Ford to clear the lots of this car.
 
Options:
 
Buy Used:
If a dealers can purchase a load Ltd (DVD, power lift), no NAV for around $15K at the auction, you can buy it for $16.5 (about 1/2 off MSRP).
 
Buy New 08:
With current incentives $5.5K off MSRP, $27.5K (same car as above)
 
Buy New 09:
With current incentives $4.5K off MSRP, $29K (09 price increase).
 
Clearly, option number 1 is the best value for your money, but if you could get $10K off MSRP for a new 08 is it worth $6.5K more for the new car vs the used car?
 
If the Gov't offers an additional $1.5K to purchase a new car, then the 08 option becomes more interesting.
 
Any thoughts?
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Re: Jan Sales [seloo] by superm
Feb 08, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Feb 08, 2009 5:59 am)

Increased incentives are the only thing that are going to move the aging 2008 inventory. Fed incentives would help futher change the math.
 
Here in my area (Philly suburbs) the flow of used T-Xs has almost completely stopped. Hope to see more soon.
 
One question though- with so many Ford dealers going under, where are the cars returned to Ford going? They can't hold onto them forever-either they're going to be sold at fire sale prices (fleets?) or they take them back and crush them.
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Re: Jan Sales [seloo] by seloo
Feb 08, 2009 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Feb 08, 2009 5:59 am)

Just spent sometime at the lot re-looking the Veracruz and comparing it to the TX.
 
In my opinion, the Veracruz is clearly the better car with a better warranty, better resale, and currently a better rebate than the TX.
 
At 1/2 off the MSRP the TX is clearly a better used car value.
 
The TX's price needs to be about $2.5-3K lower than the Veracruz (like new car and options) to offset its numerous shortcomings.
 
This explains why there are so many unsold TXs.
 
When a dealer goes out of business, Ford sells the cars to other dealers. I am sure it is at a discount, but no one will share that information with me.

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