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Ford Freestyle, Ford Taurus X, Wagon, SUV
#633 of 850 2009 Ford Taurus X Cancelled, Official Cancellation Notice!
Nov 21, 2008 (7:25 pm)
The Ford Taurus X will be discontinued February 2009 when the 2009MY balances out. The cancellation of the Taurus X will allow us to provide a singular solution to our customers needing a seven-passenger crossover with the Ford Flex, a great vehicle that is both safe and stylish.
Please take note of the below key wholesale dates to mark your calendar and be sure to take advantage of the final Taurus X production.
Final Taurus X Wholesale: November 25-Dec 5, 2008
All final orders are due no later than Friday, January 16th, 2009
Last day of production will be Friday, February 27th, 2009
#634 of 850 Re: 2009 Ford Taurus X Cancelled, Official Cancellation Notice! [forddad90]
Nov 22, 2008 (3:36 am)
Like the Freestyle, Ford should extend huge factory to dealer cash to clear the remaining 08s and new 09s.
Additionally, I would guess that Ford would offer some great fleet prices for this car.
The wholesale price for this car should continue to fall!
Bottom line: Do not buy this car, yet!
#635 of 850 Buyer's Beware
Nov 22, 2008 (4:20 am)
Dealer mark-ups on recently purchased TXs from the auction are huge!
Example: TX EB Sold at auction for $14.3K Dealer Asking Price $20K.
Problem: there is a lot of old inventory on the market that was purchased at the higher wholesales prices; this is inflating the current retail price average.
Ask to see the CarFax report, so you know when the car was purchased from the auction and then compare that to the average wholesale price of the car during that time period.
#636 of 850 Buyer needs advice
Nov 22, 2008 (7:30 am)
Lew here again,
So, I am in the market for a Taurus X and love this car. I originally looked at the new market because of the "awesome incentives" only to find that the incentives were not that "awesome." So then I began looking at the used market and found a better price but having read this thread, I feel ripped off at the thought of purchasing a vehicle for $20K with a huge profit margin to the dealership. (Don't get me wrong, I know everyone needs to make a buck, but...)
If you can, please advise specifics with this new info from Ford. I don't need a car tomorrow or the next day, etc. I have the ability to wait - but don't know how to navigate through this situation. Obviously, sitting on my hands at home won't do me any good - but how do I proceed????
So glad I found this thread - otherwise I would have bought one for way too much already.
Thanks in advance.
#637 of 850 Re: Buyer needs advice [lew8]
Nov 22, 2008 (10:48 am)
I agree, forget a new model (unless we are talking $10K + off deals)
Do you know what trim you want? SEL? EB? Ltd?
How many miles?
The longer you wait the cheaper the car is going to be at the wholesale level.
Start with autotrader and search for cars near your location.
When you find a car that interests you, then get the CarFax on that car. Most are rental/fleet cars, watch out for accident or flood information.
The average mark-up is around $3K. Some are lower and a few are much higher.
Currently, many of these cars are selling at auction for about 45% of the original MSRP. Your goal show be at or very close to 50% off the MSRP.
Edmunds new car site can give you the MSRP information. Check this information yourself, others might provide you misleading numbers.
#638 of 850 used or new
Nov 22, 2008 (10:59 am)
personally I'd not buy a used fleet/rental vehicle no matter what the price because I don't trust how it was driven or maintained, especially if it's only a year or two old. I'd rather spend more for a new one and keep it for 10 years, then buying and replacing used ones every few years. My '05 FS has over 60K miles, mid20s MPG and no problems. People should be less concerned with resale value then buying a good vehicle that meets their needs. It's not depreciation that costs most folks money, but selling and buying every few years. Buy and keep is the way to go to really save money.
#639 of 850 Re: used or new [bobw3]
Nov 22, 2008 (11:13 am)
I agree buying and keeping a car is the real way to save money, but I would rather buy a car at half off the MSRP instead of paying $500 over invoice (plus fees).
#640 of 850 confused about trade in
Nov 22, 2008 (3:48 pm)
I am interested in getting a new 2008 ford taurus x. After reading this forum for the last several weeks -I found out I should wait until after the 18th to buy. I thought I had done all my homework getting the tmv of the car and also getting a trade in value for my 2007 envoy.
We went to several dealerships in our area and both of them want to give us the employee pricing and the 1500.00 cash back. They also both mentioned the 500.00 from ford for financing through ford. Neither dealership wanted to discount the car any further than the incentives they were receiving from ford and the both wanted to give me "wholesale value" for my car.
Since when is the trade in value of my car wholesale value???
Any info here would be appreciated so I can decide rather to keep trying or not.
#641 of 850 Re: confused about trade in [smeans]
Nov 22, 2008 (4:15 pm)
Agree, this car is not a good value with the current pricing plan. Since the car is being discontinued, I would wait and see what happens. When they killed the Freestyle, Ford offer huge discounts to get them off the lots.
As for your trade, SUVs are out!
Dealers have always (with few exceptions) used the wholesale value for trade-ins. They tell many people that they are giving them more for their trade, but make-up the numbers in other parts of the deal. Much depended on how good the used car market was for that model.
With wholesale prices so low, they cannot afford to overpay for a car. Under the employee plan, the dealers are making a pre-established % of the sale.
If you added up the saving of the employee pricing + rebates + the dealer's set %, this car is still not a good deal!!!
#642 of 850 still confused
Nov 22, 2008 (4:31 pm)
Thanks for the info.
I'm still confused though then as to why there is a trade in value that can be found here on your site. What is the purpose of that? I thought that was supposed to give me an idea of what to expect to get out of my car on trade. The numbers they were giving me for wholesale were thousands below trade in value...
I understand what you're saying about the taurus, but I'm interested in this trade in value in case I decide to go a whole other route.