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765 messages, Last post on Nov 27, 2009 at 10:28 AM
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 19, 2008 7:15 am) |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 19, 2008 7:15 am) I understand your thought process. The deals with trades usually do not make the leaders board (because the dealer makes the money on the trade). I still believe that the invoice price is the best reference point for these deals. It only takes about 15-20 mins of reading articles on the internet to gain a good understanding of the car buying process. Most people buying cars like the ones discussed on this board are not your third tier consumers. Many are tier one and some are tier two consumers. Occasionally, we get a guy who pays close to MSRP, (you know what they say, there is one born every minute). Let's clear the board, so the good deals can be posted. Take care.
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 19, 2008 8:44 am) Well, when you can walk out of a dealer and the only thing you paid was the actual price of the car and nothing else, then I'll agree that comparing the car price in relation to invoice is worth something. But until then.... And BTW I paid MSRP for my Honda Fit, and considering that people were (and have been almost 2 years later) lining up to get them and some paying over MSRP, paying MSRP can be a very good deal, so when someone makes comments suggesting that people paying close to MSRP are less than savy buyers, tells me that person really doesn't know much about supply/demand...a very basic economic principle. It's a bad idea to use or suggest "always" in a statement.
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 19, 2008 3:45 pm) Is this the Honda board? I thought we were talking about deals on Fords. Yes, we all know that your paid MSRP for your Honda and that you are very proud of that fact. Do you want some special recognition? Maybe your assistance is needed on the Honda boards, I am sure the Honda dealerships would appreciate it.
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 19, 2008 4:04 pm) Anway, go back to your copy/paste close-to-spam posts.
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Replying to: djkm1 (Jan 17, 2008 4:10 pm) Since your original post was to me, I'll take a stab at answering your question. $250 over invoice for an ordered Taurus-X is not unreasonable at all. But since I believe you said it was your dealer's opening offer, you can probably do a bit better than that by countering with an offer of your own. Offer them invoice.. and be prepared to settle for maybe $100 over that. That's fair to everyone. After all, the dealer and his employee's have to eat too. I believe the rebate you receive will be whatever is in effect at time of delivery. I wouldn't worry about that being any less than the current $1,500. It might even be larger in a couple of months. That's the chance you take when you order for future delivery. At delivery, the dealer will likely try to sell you all kinds of optional add-ons.. like rust-proofing, paint sealant, alarm systems, etc. etc. etc. Just say NO to all. You don't need it, and frequently it only duplicates what is already there from the manufacturer. For gosh sake.. get Sync with your ordered vehicle. It's well worth it. One last piece of advice. I would ignore all posts from sel*o. In my opinion.. his/her approach to the car purchasing process is grossly misinformed at best, and completely misleading at worst. |
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 19, 2008 8:44 am) Personally, I think this whole concept of the "leader board" is useless at best and misleading at worst. Why not just let people read all of the deals posted and let them draw their own conclusions? It's not like there are an overwhelming number of deals being posted! |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 19, 2008 4:10 pm) I know, we all have the same goal here. I am just jerking your chain. No hard feelings. |
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Replying to: passat_2002 (Jan 19, 2008 5:11 pm) Gentlemen these are harsh and hurtful words. Misguided - to provide with incorrect information. Misleading - deceptive; tending to mislead. Useless - of no use; not serving the purpose or any purpose; unavailing or futile Are you telling me that saving money on a new car by purchasing it below the invoice price and avoiding the extra fees/Add-Ons is deceptive and incorrect information? Additionally, providing this information in a simple to read format is useless? This is certainly not my intent! Philosophically, I think we all want the same thing, please tell me if this is not true. The best price we can get on a new car (No Add-ons, Extra Fees) Keep the trade (if any) as a separate part of the car deal. Keep financing as a separate part of the car deal. Please help me understand your points of view.
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 20, 2008 5:05 am)
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