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Re: Just couldn't pull the trigger [bobw3] by freestylegal
Jan 09, 2008 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 08, 2008 6:37 pm)

HI bobw3. Glad to see you're still around and your Freestyle, too. I'm only just now beginning to realize how much cool stuff came with my trim level Freestyle (SEL with the comfort zone package) and how it's not on other cars I'm looking at for the same price. And I'm not willing to go without those things. No trac control on the Escape??? I was out in that awful storm that SFO last week. I felt something odd with my car and I looked down at the message center and it said "trac control active." And I was darn glad of it, too! I know it's not ESC, but hey, it's better than nothing! The wind was buffeting my car pretty good and I wanted to turn the radio up to listen the traffic update. With the Escape, I would have had to take my hand off the wheel to turn up the radio. And the $2,600 nav system on the Escape won't let you input or change anything if the car is moving. So, I'll keep my Freebie and I'm buying a portable nav system for $300.
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Re: Best Deal [seloo] What is new for 2008 [seloo] by seloo
Jan 10, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: seloo (Dec 31, 2007 11:44 am)

Current Update
         
Post your best deal in terms of below invoice price:
           
07 Freestyle $4900 below invoice. (Any of these left on the market?)
        
08 T-X $1000 below invoice. (This number is very low, better deals are being made with the CX-9 and VC)
         
With all the rebates, at a minimum current deals on 08s should be at least equal to the rebate below the invoice price. (ie... $2000 rebate = $2000 below invoice)
     
Watch out for extra fees!
          
Good Luck.
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Re: X Plan [passat_2002] by djkm1
Jan 17, 2008 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: passat_2002 (Jan 03, 2008 9:32 pm)

Hello,
 
After talking with my sales rep I decided to build my own 2008 T-X. I was quoted a price of $250 over invoice (less incentive of $1500). Is this a good deal? Thanks in advance.
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Re: X Plan [djkm1] by seloo
Jan 17, 2008 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: djkm1 (Jan 17, 2008 4:10 pm)

It depends on how many extra fees you pay as part of the deal.
 
Anything not covered as part of the local or state Gov't taxes or Lic fee could be an extra fee (Doc Fee, Ad Fee, the list is very long).
 
Since the dealership does not have to carry this car on their inventory, I would ask for $2K below invoice with no fees. The Sales Rep will not be happy, but the dealership still makes good money on that deal!
 
As I understand it, you get the rebate (incentive) of the month when the car arrives. It may be higher next month.
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Re: X Plan [seloo] by djkm1
Jan 17, 2008 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 17, 2008 4:54 pm)

Wow! 2K below invoice plus no fees is what I will ask for then. Thanks so much. When we talked about pricing he came up with $250 over invoice, and he did not mention anything about fees, but then again we had not built the car yet. I wanted to read some posts on price negotiation first. I don't want to haggle, it's too stressful. Not knowing anything about the art of a car sale I thought $250 over invoice was a good deal. I've much to learn I guess.
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Re: X Plan [seloo] by humblecoder
Jan 17, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 17, 2008 4:54 pm)

Since the dealership does not have to carry this car on their inventory, I would ask for $2K below invoice with no fees. The Sales Rep will not be happy, but the dealership still makes good money on that deal!
 
When you say to offer $2K below invoice, are you including the factory rebate in that figure? If you are, then yes, that is a fair deal. If you are suggesting that the poster offer $2K below invoice and then subtract the rebate on top of that figure, then I think you'll probably get that offer rejected.
 
Even though dealers don't have to carry the ordered vehicle on their inventory, the vehicle still counts against their allocation. My guess is that with a low-ball offer like that, they are going to save their allocation for another, better deal.
 
In my opinion, invoice price minus whatever incentive is in effect upon delivery is a fair deal. So the original poster is only $250 away from that deal.
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Re: X Plan [humblecoder] by seloo
Jan 17, 2008 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: humblecoder (Jan 17, 2008 5:46 pm)

Sorry for the confusion, yes including the rebate. $750 lower than his current offer and no fees (the fees will kill the deal if you let them).
 
If they will not give you the deal you want, then walk away. After leaving the dealership, send an email outlining your offer to the closes Ford Dealerships in your area.
 
Factory Order:
 
08 TX (with the options you want) at $2K below invoice and no extra fees.
 
To do this, you need to fully understand the invoice price and guard against the extra fees.
 
Also tell them that you are ready to order today!
 
Work on your time line not the dealerships.
 
Good Luck!
 
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Re: X Plan [seloo] by djkm1
Jan 17, 2008 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 17, 2008 6:30 pm)

Thanks seloo. My dealer printed out the 2008 pricelist for me to make my choices. It has three columns: dealer price, dealer invoice with holdback, and suggested retail. Do I work from the the dealer price or the holdback price (ie Limited FWD dealer price is $26,323/ holdback $27,586) when negotiating?
 
What fees would be i be expecting to pay?
 
Thanks
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Re: X Plan [seloo] by bobw3
Jan 17, 2008 (11:59 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 17, 2008 4:54 pm)

the dealership still makes good money on that deal!
 
How does the dealer make "good money" when selling a car for $500 below invoice?
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Here we go again with Bobw3 by seloo
Jan 18, 2008 (2:42 am)
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Bobw5,
 
I am very surprised you asked that question.
 
Making money is always a good thing for the dealership. As you know, the dealership will get the full hold back (4.3% for an Opel Dealer), plus any factory to dealer money, monthly sales incentive, and most likely a volume kickback.
 
You are killing me!

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