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Re: Need help deciding on dealer after-market add-ons [bobw3] by freealfas
Jan 08, 2008 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 07, 2008 10:14 am)

bobw3 - you and I have fought battles on the same side around here for a bit of time now but I'm sticking to my old school thinking EVERY TIME, the dealers at the end of the day are just trying to seperate you from your money with this stuff.
 
Until 1999, I lived on the central coast of central california for 20yrs with no shortage of wind, rain, sea breeze, etc., etc.(now I'm in chicago with salt/winter) with absolutely no problems with underbody rust and having owned pre 2000 bmw's, saabs, alfas, isuzu trooper, ford, vw with NONE of them receiving a lick of dealer ripping you off extra "treatments". PROVISION - as long as your paint is in tact and no bare metal is exposed you will have no rust problems & remember the same holds true with undercoating because it's not like it can't get scraped off in areas as well or damaged.
 
I'd advise you and everyone to keep your money during the dealers last ditch effort to simply capitalize on what is a largely useless and hugely PROFITABLE extra that ONLY BENEFITS the dealer.
 
scotchgard your fabric for $8-10 and wax wash your car regularly by hand and you will be well served.
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Re: Need help deciding on dealer after-market add-ons [freealfas] by bobw3
Jan 08, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: freealfas (Jan 08, 2008 11:53 am)

I agree, that's why I said IF a person has a history of rust problems in their area...a big IF!! Plus, some folks might be too old or too lazy to wax their car, so paying a few hundred up front might be a good investment to them. Same with the fabric treatment.
 
Think of them like any other car option. Some folks pay for the $2000 DVD or Nav system, while others opt for the after-market Circuit City version that's a lot cheaper.
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Re: Need help deciding on dealer after-market add-ons [bobw3] by freealfas
Jan 08, 2008 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 08, 2008 1:12 pm)

c'mon bobbw, rust protection has come a long way from days gone by, the coatings, finishes are all tested and are designed to last. I understand where you are going with your point but you are never going to sway me that any of those options are worth any portion of what a dealer charges.
 
and those prices quoted by the OP are going to buy a lot of yearly wax jobs I'm thinking...
 
seems we're headed towards agreeing to disagree on them having any merit...
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Just couldn't pull the trigger by freestylegal
Jan 08, 2008 (7:23 pm)
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I've got a 2005 Freestyle SEL with 70K miles on it. Paid 28K for it on Jan. 2, 2005 and have had no problems at all (other than the gremlin that makes the panic horn go off for no apparent reason--kind of embarrassing and annoying, but no problems can be found). Neehoo, thought it was time to have a look at an Escape Hybrid because I drive a lot of miles. Drove it--it's okay. So, with the model that costs 32K (MSRP), no rear back-up sensor, two power outlets (but it does have the 110V), no keyless entry, a lot harder to fold the rear seats down--you have to take the headrests off. No sound system controls on the steering wheel, no traction control. And no haggling or dealing. They acted like I was stealing from them to get them down to 29K. Pfffft. Gonna pay off my Freestyle (10 more payments--woo hoo!) and go from there. It still looks new. The trade-in value was $9,000. Yeah, whatever.
 
STILL love my Freebie. I still don't see many of them on the streets (or the Taurus X) around here, but I was visiting New Jersey, and there are tons of them there. I'm so sad that they took the CVT out of the Taurus as that's one of my favorite features of the car--big car, hauls a lot of stuff and people, and I'm still getting 21-22 mpg around town, and 25-26 out on the freeway (going over the speed limit
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Re: Just couldn't pull the trigger [freestylegal] by bobw3
Jan 08, 2008 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: freestylegal (Jan 08, 2008 7:23 pm)

I'm pretty much in the same situation as you. My '05 SE is 3 years old next month (one more payment!) and has 60,000 miles. I paid $23,500 for it on the X-Plan. It has the rear ac/heating in the ceiling/floor which is great, plus the duel front climate control which is also great. I had a couple of sensors replaced under warranty, and I replaced the rear brake pads this past summer, but that's it. Like you I get in the low 20s MPG around town and mid to upper 20's on the highway, depending on if I'm going the speed limit or over.
 
I'm too looking around, but can't find anything better than what I already have. I also agree that the CVT is a great transmission. Very smooth and no shift points. I still look around. The Mazda 5 looks good, but I can't see getting $10K for my FS then putting another $10-15K on a new Mazda5. Plus the MPG isn't much better and there is no rear HVAC system.
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Re: Just couldn't pull the trigger [bobw3] by freestylegal
Jan 09, 2008 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 08, 2008 7:37 pm)

HI bobw3. Glad to see you're still around and your Freestyle, too. I'm only just now beginning to realize how much cool stuff came with my trim level Freestyle (SEL with the comfort zone package) and how it's not on other cars I'm looking at for the same price. And I'm not willing to go without those things. No trac control on the Escape??? I was out in that awful storm that SFO last week. I felt something odd with my car and I looked down at the message center and it said "trac control active." And I was darn glad of it, too! I know it's not ESC, but hey, it's better than nothing! The wind was buffeting my car pretty good and I wanted to turn the radio up to listen the traffic update. With the Escape, I would have had to take my hand off the wheel to turn up the radio. And the $2,600 nav system on the Escape won't let you input or change anything if the car is moving. So, I'll keep my Freebie and I'm buying a portable nav system for $300.
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Re: Best Deal [seloo] What is new for 2008 [seloo] by seloo
Jan 10, 2008 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: seloo (Dec 31, 2007 12:44 pm)

Current Update
         
Post your best deal in terms of below invoice price:
           
07 Freestyle $4900 below invoice. (Any of these left on the market?)
        
08 T-X $1000 below invoice. (This number is very low, better deals are being made with the CX-9 and VC)
         
With all the rebates, at a minimum current deals on 08s should be at least equal to the rebate below the invoice price. (ie... $2000 rebate = $2000 below invoice)
     
Watch out for extra fees!
          
Good Luck.
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Re: X Plan [passat_2002] by djkm1
Jan 17, 2008 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: passat_2002 (Jan 03, 2008 10:32 pm)

Hello,
 
After talking with my sales rep I decided to build my own 2008 T-X. I was quoted a price of $250 over invoice (less incentive of $1500). Is this a good deal? Thanks in advance.
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Re: X Plan [djkm1] by seloo
Jan 17, 2008 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: djkm1 (Jan 17, 2008 5:10 pm)

It depends on how many extra fees you pay as part of the deal.
 
Anything not covered as part of the local or state Gov't taxes or Lic fee could be an extra fee (Doc Fee, Ad Fee, the list is very long).
 
Since the dealership does not have to carry this car on their inventory, I would ask for $2K below invoice with no fees. The Sales Rep will not be happy, but the dealership still makes good money on that deal!
 
As I understand it, you get the rebate (incentive) of the month when the car arrives. It may be higher next month.
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Re: X Plan [seloo] by djkm1
Jan 17, 2008 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 17, 2008 5:54 pm)

Wow! 2K below invoice plus no fees is what I will ask for then. Thanks so much. When we talked about pricing he came up with $250 over invoice, and he did not mention anything about fees, but then again we had not built the car yet. I wanted to read some posts on price negotiation first. I don't want to haggle, it's too stressful. Not knowing anything about the art of a car sale I thought $250 over invoice was a good deal. I've much to learn I guess.

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