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Ford Taurus X Prices Paid and Buying Experiences

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What is this discussion about? Ford Freestyle, Ford Taurus X, Wagon, SUV


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Re: 2008 EB FWD [bobw3] by essienc
Oct 22, 2007 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Oct 22, 2007 6:13 am)

Granted, I'm very new to this forum, but I'm picking up quite a bit of hostility from a poster or two.....the last two deals listed ( mine included) have been called out and one poster actually came out and said that basically we had to be lying because these deals couldn't be right...then a pissin match over invoice price from another person getting a deal..
 
Am I missing something.is there some sort of prize at stake that has people's blood pressure up, or are some people just argumentative.....
 
I must tell you.I was a bit offended by people questioning my deal simply because I hadn't read over 300 posts to know what information to put out there............then another person posted that they highly doubted the veracity of the deal..................huh???
 
Why would I lie.........I'm very excited about my new car and my first big deal and I am admittedly a new member here and I'm met with a bit of hostility......what's up with that?
 
Do I need to scan the freakin paperwork from the dealership?
 
just let me know......I'm not used to having people doubt my word, in person or online......basically I'm really trying to figure where it's coming from.....
 
sheesh
 
p.s....I just noticed this came up as a reply to bobw3.............this is not directed at him.other forums I use allows you to hit the reply button on the last message to carry on the thread...my bad
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Re: 2008 EB FWD [essienc] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 22, 2007 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: essienc (Oct 22, 2007 10:55 am)

Don't sweat it...
 
Members in the Prices Paid forums tend to be very detail-oriented.. If they see a great deal, they want to make sure they have all the numbers, before they make a fool out of themselves trying to get an impossible deal.
 
I don't think anyone questioned your honesty (we frown on labeling other members as liars.. ).
 
It looks like you got a very good deal... Thanks for posting your experience! Stick around and join in the other Freestyle/TaurusX discussions.
 
regards,
kyfdx
Host-Prices Paid Forums
 
P.S. You'll always find posts that you don't like.. Just use the scroll wheel.. (I have to read them).
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Re: 2008 EB FWD [essienc] by bobw3
Oct 22, 2007 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: essienc (Oct 22, 2007 10:55 am)

Exactly like the host said. I don't think anyone thinks someone is lying, but they just want to get all of the details.ou
 
For example if someone tells me that the dealer dropped $5,000 from the sticker price the first impression would be...hey, great deal. But then after getting all of the details you find out that they spent a couple of thousand more then they needed to on an extended warranty, and they only received $2,000 for a trade that was valued at $10,000, then the $5,000 off sticker isn't as impressive sounding.
 
Another thing about car buying is that car prices are similar to house prices, in that in different geographic areas you can find different prices for the same thing. Maybe not as extreme, but if you're in Southern California, you may find that a Taurus X will cost you a lot more than if your dealership is outside of Detroit.
 
And it will vary by lot. You may get a great deal at the end of a model year from a dealer who's just trying to clear their lot. Or from a dealer who only needs one more sale to meet their quota. Or from a dealer where you've bought cars from every 3 years for the past 30 years, so they're willing to give you a good deal.
 
Bottom line is that just because someone is posting that they bought a Taurus X or whatever for $1000 under invoice will have very little to do with the price you can expect to pay. And if you end up paying $500 over invoice for your Taurus X, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're a stupid buyer who go ripped off, because there could have been many factors in the deal where the guy got $1000 below invoice that don't apply in your case (eg georgraphic location, dealer inventory, history, specific incentives at the time of purchase, etc).
 
Think of all of the information here as a very rough guide. The simplest thing to do is go to a couple of different dealers. That way you can test drive the vehicle you're looking for a few different times and have a few different prices that you can compare.
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Also.. by kyfdx HOST
Oct 22, 2007 (11:57 am)
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We want you to feel good about being a member here..
 
So, apologies if some of us come across the wrong way..
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Re: 2008 EB FWD [essienc] by oldgretsch
Oct 22, 2007 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: essienc (Oct 22, 2007 10:55 am)

I gotta agree. I didn't think I would be questioned on my deal from the folks in here like I do from my auditors at work about my accounting techniques
 
But I also understand a healthy dose of skepticism is a good thing. It does help flesh out the numbers. I guess it is all how the questions are asked. And the responses to the answers. At least now everyone who reads this forum knows that you can get the invoice price from some Ford dealers off the Ford website. I thought the invoices were listed for all X's on the Ford website and everyone could view them...not.
 
For those that have not purchased their X yet, good luck with your deal. I looked a just about every car in the X's class and felt the X was the car for me. Now that I have owned the X for 10 days, I still feel the same way
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destination charge? by francishsu
Oct 22, 2007 (8:58 pm)
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Wait, is destination charge supposed to be included or not for the "best deal" numbers?
 
The $1400 below invoice for the Taurus X was before the $750 destination charge right? I assumed we were including the destination charge.
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Re: destination charge? [francishsu] by seloo
Oct 23, 2007 (4:53 am)
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Replying to: francishsu (Oct 22, 2007 8:58 pm)

It was very confusing but, we included the Des Charge in the invoice equation.
 
Note Post #357: Using the Edmunds' numbers (base + aux + des)28,902 - $1,500 (rebate) + $100 (fee) = $27,502 which is very close to your final number. $1400 below invoice.
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Re: destination charge? [seloo] by francishsu
Oct 23, 2007 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: seloo (Oct 23, 2007 4:53 am)

Going by post #351, he paid 27,443 (26,693 + 750)
 
I looked up the invoice on Edmunds with the options he got and the Total w/options and destination charge is 28,485 (26,703 + $566 aux climate + $257 reverse sensing + $209 heated seats + $750 destination)
 
So he paid closer to $1000 below invoice?
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Invoice price. by passat_2002
Oct 23, 2007 (9:41 am)
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It's extremely unlikely that anyone is paying "below invoice" for a Taurus X. Any rebate from the manufacturer is a separate transaction and does not figure-in to what you are actually giving the dealership for their car. I think some are confusing purchase price with the "out-the-door" price,(i.e. after rebate). Anyone claiming to have paid "$1,400 below invoice" should clarify that they are figuring this in a very non-traditional way, and in a way that only end's up confusing most who read this thread.
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Re: destination charge? [francishsu] by seloo
Oct 23, 2007 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: francishsu (Oct 23, 2007 7:46 am)

Good catch.
 
I was looking at a Limited not the EB, agree it is closer to $1000 below invoice.

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