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#165 of 166 Cooling off...
Apr 28, 2005 (8:25 pm)
OK - we are on the hybrids v. diesels again and completely missing the title of this discussion. The discussion will be closed until Monday while we remove the off-topic posts. After that - we'll start removing the members that can't stop picking fights or making this into the ever-ranting diesel v. hybrid and not allow them to post in this discussion.
#166 of 166 During our time out...
by pf_flyer HOST
Apr 29, 2005 (8:13 am)
Well since it's raining out and that helped me avoid the yard work I've been putting off, this was an interesting way to spend a morning. Just a couple of words of what I hope is wisdom...
It's GREAT that everyone is so passionate about things, and ready to share their knowledge and opinions with everyone. That really helps make these forums a valuable source of information and enjoyable activity for everyone. But there are a few things to remember that will help things move along smoothly without these..err... interuptions!
We're dealing with opinions here, and just like noses, no two are going to be exactly alike. Chances are that you're going to see things that you might not agree with. You might even see things that are just plain incorrect. Those are not reasons to question the intelligence, ancestry, sanity, physical contortions, or honesty (among other things) of the person posting those opinions or "defective facts". Make your counter point, display your side of things, and keep the discussion moving forward. Don't fall into the trap of letting these discussions get personal. If it's an irreconcilable difference, agree to disagree and move on. Which brings me to the next big pitfall...
Don't try to "prove" anything on the forums. Just not going to happen. As much as you KNOW that you're right and they're wrong, realize that they're going to change their mind just about the time that you agree to see things their way. The yelling and screaming between the start of the debate and the realization that it's hopeless is something we all should try to avoid!
And a pet peeve of mine, even though it's a device people use to clarify what they're responding to... I just see more of these situations escalated when people start pulling quotes from one another's posts to refute things point by point. It goes back to the futility of trying to prove something to someone on a message board. it's likely that they'll only hear "Wha wha whwha..." like what happens to me when someone starts to talk about life insurance, AND you get the added bonus of the other guy having the opportunity of saying you took him out of context!
Now onto the specific situation of THIS topic.
It's supposed to be a comparison topic between the named vehicles. I KNOW that diesel vs hybrid is going to be part of that since the TDI is a diesel vehicle. But as we have discovered, diesel vs hybrid is a highly toxic subject and has to be handled carefully. Once we spin off into that, we go off into trucks and from there into big vehicles and then to SUV's and before you know it you have
I don't like SUV's, why do you?.
Follow that link if you want to see how badly that story turned out.
Keep it centered around the topic titles and we'll be fine. Nobody will have to be shot, tactical airstrikes can be avoided, and we'll all live to see another day.
Again, we really appreciate your enthusiasm and passion about these topics. But remember that this is also supposed to be ENJOYABLE as well.
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