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update by sacmtnr
Mar 09, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Just a quick update on my Mountaineer. I recently took it in for the latest transmission flash update. It does seem to be shifting a little smoother even after a few weeks. Not a big difference, and not perfect, but it is a little better. After one year and 15000 miles I am use to the shifting. This is still also the only minor complaint aboiut the vehicle. Everything else about the vehicle is very solid and as good as the day I drove it home from the dealer. Mileage is consistantly 14 in town and between 20 and 22 on the highway. I did notice a 1 mpg increase when I switched to fully synthetic Amsoil 0W-20 oil.
Again I think this is a great vehicle and with a little effort by Ford it could become even better.
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Re: Transmission dragging [88domer] by gldnbr2
Mar 10, 2008 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: 88domer (Mar 09, 2008 7:22 am)

I have not heard of this abrubt thumb when stopping as being caused by tires. Every person I have spoken to have been told it is a programming issue. I guess Ford will do anything to make people believe the problem with their transmission is anything other than a design flaw. I would suggest you have the newest program downloaded as suggested in other posts. I had my last one done in late November and it has improved slightly, but still has the same problem, but just not as abrubt as before. It still hesitates slightly when starting up from a corner, because it seems confused as to what gear it's suppose to be in. I've given up on this vehicle and will no longer purchase another Ford. When my lease is up next year, I will be happy to walk away from this problem. I recently bought a 1993 Cadillac Fleetwood with 91,000 miles to drive instead of the Mountaineer. It shifts smoothly and runs much better then my Mountaineer and its 13 years older. I'll use the Mountaineer in bad weather or when I need to haul something. The Mountaineer has many great qualities, it's just to bad that Ford is acting the way they are and turning away customers who have enjoyed their products over the years.
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Re: Transmission dragging [gldnbr2] by waygrabow
Mar 10, 2008 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: gldnbr2 (Mar 10, 2008 6:22 am)

Sorry, and surprised, to read of your problems. Our Explorer, a '99 XLT with 104,000 miles, has been very reliable and fairly flawless. We use it somewhat as a truck- to haul construction materials, tow an 18' trailer, drive in deep snow & back roads. It has been good enough that a new Explorer would be the first thing to look at when I decide to replace it. I am careful with maintenance. I am not saying that all Ford products are great; we had a bad experience with a Ford Contour and a great experience with a Ford Taurus SHO. Now we have one German-built sedan and one Japanese-built sedan and have no allegiance to any one particular brand..
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2006 transmission problems corrected by fsmmcsi
Mar 14, 2008 (7:56 pm)
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My 2006 Explorer V8 has exhibited some slight 1-2 upshift and downshift problems since it was new, but they were too slight for me to bother taking it in for service. I now have 34,600 miles on it, and the problem (occasionally feeling like being hit from behind on some stops, occasional jerky take-off from stops) had worsened, so I took it to Rancho Santa Margarita Ford. I especially appreciate the transmission mechanic's desire to having it right before returning it to me. He worked on it, and it was supposed to be finished at the end of the day Wednesday. However, when I arrived to pick it up, Duane in the service department explained that the mechanic was not statisfied with the way it shifted, so wanted to replace more parts. I picked it up this morning (Friday), and it is very, very smooth.
 
They did not have the paperwork ready when I picked it up, and I did not care, as it was warranty work, so I do not know what they replaced, although I think they will mail the paperwork.
 
I see that some of you seem to have the probelms return after the transmission was repaired. Is that correct?
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Re: 2006 transmission problems corrected [fsmmcsi] by gldnbr2
Mar 14, 2008 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: fsmmcsi (Mar 14, 2008 7:56 pm)

From my own experience I would say yes to your question. It comes down to a computer download that reprograms the transmission. It will shift smooth for a few hundred miles, but eventually comes back. I have had this done several times only to have it reappear. The last one has improved it more than the other downloads, but it still on occasion shifts with the feeling of "being hit from behind." Good luck, and I hope whatever was done will last.
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Re: 2006 transmission problems corrected [fsmmcsi] by dave1309
Mar 15, 2008 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: fsmmcsi (Mar 14, 2008 7:56 pm)

I went thru the same process and had all the problems associated with the transmission. Returned to the dealer three times and the last time they had the new flash code program. The mechanic also replaced something called a valve body and cleaned that area of any gunk and buildup.
When I picked my Explorer up the mechanic also said that he wiped out the adaptive learning part of the computer and to give it a couple of days of normal driving. If I had any problems to bring it back.
I'm happy to I've been problem free with the tranny. Whatever the dealer did (my mechanical skills are not the best) worked. I think that replacing that valve body with a newly modified version did the trick.
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Re: 2006 transmission problems corrected [dave1309] by gldnbr2
Mar 15, 2008 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: dave1309 (Mar 15, 2008 6:31 am)

Awesome! How long has it been since you had it repaired? After my last new flash it took a couple months before it began acting up again. I'll keep my fingers crossed that what your mechanic did will continue to work.
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Re: 2006 transmission problems corrected [gldnbr2] by dave1309
Mar 15, 2008 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: gldnbr2 (Mar 15, 2008 7:22 am)

If I remember correctly the problem was finally fixed (hope) back in late November of 2007. No problems since..........need to find a piece of wood to knock on when I say that, don't want to jinx anything.
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Gas Mileage by sacmtnr
Mar 28, 2008 (2:33 pm)
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Just returned from a trip to Florida from Northern Virginia. I was curious what the mileage for the entire trip might be so I didn't reset the mileage tracker until we returned home. The trip covered approximately 1900 miles. About 1400 of these were highway, with the rest being just general sight seeing and quite a bit of beach driving (aprox. 60 miles). Also sat in one highway backup on the way home where we only traveled about 5 miles in 2 hours. The total average mileage was 20.8. I was actually very surprised it was that high. I would have expected that for just the highway part of the trip. Will also mention that the vehicle always had 4 people in it.
 
A note on the transmission issues with the 6 speed, it's been about a month since I had the latest flash update (from late November/ early December actually) done and it still seems to be shifting slightly better. Like I said in an earlier post, it's not perfect but the latest update did seem to make it a little better so might be worth a try for those of you that haven't done it yet.
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Re: Gas Mileage [sacmtnr] by baggs32
Mar 28, 2008 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: sacmtnr (Mar 28, 2008 2:33 pm)

Good report. Thanks for the update.
 
While the tranny issues, minor and isolated as they seem to be, make be glad we went with the V6 in our '06 Explorer I think we'll get the V8 if we get a Mountaineer next year when the leas is up. Our best highway mileage came last Summer on a trip from Pittsburgh to the OBX where we averaged just under 22 mpg. Seeing that the V8 gets similar mileage it would be worth the extra $$ just to have the extra power. The hills around here make the V8 slightly strained at times.

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