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Re: Rough Shifting [kiawah]
by gldnbr2
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Oct 05, 2007 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Oct 05, 2007 5:00 am)
Your advice is accurate. The dealer has been awesome in working with me on this problem. I know they have their hands tied when it comes to fixing the problem. Ford will not admit that there is a problem with many of their vehicles with this same problem. They only send downloads to temporarily fix it. The dealership has stated they stand behind me and will do whatever it takes to fix or replace the vehicle in the next month if the "new fix" does not work. It is Ford that I am upset with. They talk big about standing behind their quality product, but when it comes down to it, they will not do a thing if the lemon law is not followed to exact expectations. There is a lot more to this, but the bottom line is I'm very dissatisfied with Ford and this particular vehicle, and you are right when you say I'm lucky to have leased it, and I will be out of it in another year one way or another.
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Re: Rough Shifting [gldnbr2]
by panzer
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Oct 05, 2007 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: gldnbr2 (Oct 04, 2007 7:17 pm)
I'm following this one. My 2006 V8 Explorer has somewhat inconsistent shifting, the 1-2 is sometimes a little abrupt, and the 2-1 downshift after a highway run is sometimes quite rough. I had the same problem with my previous 2004 VW Touareg with the 6 speed Aisin tranny. When the lockup unlocked when slowing down after a highway run, it would sometimes shake my world. The Explorer upshifts better if I accelerate moderately instead of slowly. The problem is that moderate acceleration in a V8 Explorer is pretty strong and not appropriate in many traffic situations. Mine was reflashed about 5,000 miles ago, and I think it's regressed some. They also did something to the engine management system that makes the car cough and sputter for a few seconds after I put it in drive, first thing in the morning. Clears up after about 100 feet. That was after I complained that it cold idled at 2500 rpm. Kinda wierd. I'll bring it up next oil change.
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Re: Rough Shifting [panzer]
by sacmtnr
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Oct 05, 2007 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: panzer (Oct 05, 2007 8:27 am)
My 2007 Mountaineer still has some of these issues. Rough shift from 1-2 and 2-1 downshift is sometimes abrupt when slowing in a parking lot for example. I did have it reflashed at 5k (for the 2nd time) and it was somewhat better for a week or two, then back to it's old ways. I returned it to the dealer again and was told that Ford would not authorize any further repairs. Found this rediculious since the mechanic and service manager both had said it should shift better than it does. Then the mechanic told me that he had talked to a factory rep that told him if it shifted fine after the flash and then got worse it was my fault. WTF!! He said that it learns driving patterns and if both my wife and I both drive it that we have different patterns and we were confusing it. At this point I rolled up my pants and told the mechanic that if he was going to start throwing that much s..t around I didn't want to get my pants dirty. I then asked the manager if Ford's official position was that the rough shift was my fault. He refused to comment. 10k service next week, we may try again.
As a side note, earlier posts say that replacing the valve body will correct this problem. When I asked about that I was told that all 6 speeds made after July of 06 (mine included) already had the new valve body so other than reflash there was nothing left to do.
I plan on keeping the vehicle for a while so I'm hoping this issue doesn't get worse. Although if it got worse I suppose they would eventually have to do something. I just hoping that the 6 speed doesn't turn out to be a hibitual piece of crap.
Last note, aside from all the above whining, I love this vehicle and enjoy it every time I get in it. Just didn't expect a 35k plus vehicle to not shift smoothly.
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follow up on 2006 harsh and abrubt shifting
by gldnbr2
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Nov 01, 2007 (3:46 pm)
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I have posted before about my concern over the intermittent harsh and abrubt downshifting of my 2006 Mountaineer. I have had to take the issue to the Better Business Bureau Auto Line. I would like to ask if others are still having the same problem with the transmission. Have any been fixed permanently? If so, could you let me know by responding to this post? I want to be sure both parties involved in this dispute, see that the rough transmission downshifting is not a single incident, but one that involves other Mountaineer's or Explorer's.
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Re: follow up on 2006 harsh and abrubt shifting [gldnbr2]
by sacmtnr
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Nov 03, 2007 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: gldnbr2 (Nov 01, 2007 3:46 pm)
I found this on several other Mountaineer forums. Apparently Ford will be comming out with yet another update in mid-November. Let's all hope this one actually does something.
"Special Service Messages
20005 2006-2007 Explorer/Mountaineer/Explorer Sport Trac -- various transmission shift quality symptoms - 6R60 Trans - temporary, do not attempt to repair
Some 2006-2007 Explorer 4DR/Mountaineers and 2007 Explorer Sport Trac vehicles equipped with 6R60 transmissions may exhibit various transmission performance issues. When compared to other transmission, some of the shift characteristics are different that previous models due to the 100% synchronous design of the 6R60. Customer concerns that exceed shift characteristics of like equipped vehicles which may include transmission engagement delay when shifting between P-D, N-D, and R-D, Delayed/Hesitation on 1-2 shift, 2-1 and/or 3-2 decel step in shifts. Hoot noise during cold 1st gear launches from transmission pump. TSB-07-13-08 has been deactivated in PTS. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPAIR VEHICLES WITH THESE CONDITIONS. ENGINEERING WILL BE RELEASING A NEW TSB APPROXIMATELY MID-NOVEMBER.
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Re: follow up on 2006 harsh and abrubt shifting [sacmtnr]
by pulleydog
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Nov 03, 2007 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: sacmtnr (Nov 03, 2007 8:56 am)
sacmtnr - you beat me to it. I was just about to post this info. After 8 months and about 10K miles, our '07 V-8 Explorer suddenly started downshifting (roughly) when slowing to a stop. We just brought it in last week and got the same info - TSB to be released in a few weeks.
This is our 5th Mountaineer/Explorer and the last 3 have had some form of transmission issue. And exactly why we have leased and not purchased. A real shame too - this last model was possibly going to be a 'keeper' - the best by far over any of the others we have had to date. Let's hope the TSB is more than just a temporary fix for a reoccuring problem.
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Re: follow up on 2006 harsh and abrubt shifting [sacmtnr]
by gldnbr2
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Nov 03, 2007 (9:30 pm)
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Replying to: sacmtnr (Nov 03, 2007 8:56 am)
Thank you both for that important information. I was wondering what other Mountaineer forums have discussed this transmission problem? I would like to collect all the information I can find in order to help my case when it comes to arbritration with myself, the BBB Auto Line and Ford Motor Company. I've had enough of this transmission problem. Thanks again for the information and I look forward to anything else anyone can provide.
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Re: follow up on 2006 harsh and abrubt shifting [gldnbr2]
by champie
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Nov 05, 2007 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: gldnbr2 (Nov 01, 2007 3:46 pm)
I am experiencing this very same problem on my 2006 ford Explorer Limited. Dealer says check back in Mid Novenber. Otherwise great car-love to drive this high powered and heavy SUV.
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Re: follow up on 2006 harsh and abrubt shifting [champie]
by gldnbr2
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Nov 05, 2007 (4:12 pm)
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Replying to: champie (Nov 05, 2007 3:37 pm)
Thank you for the reply...every bit of information concerning this problem is very helpful.
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Re: follow up on 2006 harsh and abrupt shifting
by 66isgr8
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Nov 10, 2007 (4:51 pm)
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I have had my 2007 Ford Explorer V8 in the shop 6 times for the abrupt shifting. They have reprogrammed a few times and replaced the megatronic controller (computer that controls the shifting). Just yesterday I had the new programming (the one they promised mid November) done (it just came out this week). So far, so good. It shifts a lot smoother, but I am not ready to "sign off" on this until I have a few weeks of smooth shifting.
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