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Re: 2007 Mountaineer AWD [baggs32] by panzer
Jul 26, 2007 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jul 25, 2007 9:54 am)

Nice to know you can do it, kinda. 25MPH comes up pretty quick when I drive on sand. Speed is your friend.
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Re: 2007 Mountaineer AWD [panzer] by tidester HOST
Jul 26, 2007 (8:25 pm)
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Replying to: panzer (Jul 26, 2007 12:33 pm)

Speed is your friend.
 
That depends on what kind of sand you're driving on.
 
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Re: Mountaineer AWD V8 in sand [sacmtnr] by lateralg
Jul 27, 2007 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: sacmtnr (Jul 26, 2007 8:32 am)

It's my view that disabling traction control is the wrong thing to do. If it is disabled, the first wheel to lose traction will spin, unchecked, digging a nice hole.
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Re: 2007 Mountaineer AWD [tidester] by panzer
Jul 27, 2007 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Jul 26, 2007 8:25 pm)

I thought about that again. Not always true. The sand I typically drive on is in NW Nebraska, on the shore of a big lake that's down about 80 feet from high water line, leaving a beach that's over a mile wide down to the water in some areas. The sand is quite fine and fluffy, alot like a New England seashore beach. It gives traction and stability control quite a workout. They both work against playing "Rat Patrol." There are few real hazards there. It would be reckless to drive fast on most any seashore beach that I'm aware of. With beachcombers, walking traffic and the various shore life, driving on the beach, even slowly must be done with great care. That's why it's illegal to do so in many jurisdictions.
 
I've actually not had the opportunity to take my 06 V8 Explorer to the sand. I've done plenty of sand driving with my old cars, including a VW Touareg and two Isuzu Troopers. Your comment about air pressure is right. Low pressure makes a big difference. I usually just fight it with highway air pressure in the tires, and let some out if the going gets tough. With the Touareg I could air up from the onboard pump.
 
I much prefer a simple 4wd in the sand. Wonder how the Land Rovers are with an actual program in the traction/stability control that accounts for sand.
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Re: 2007 Mountaineer AWD [panzer] by baggs32
Jul 27, 2007 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: panzer (Jul 27, 2007 11:01 am)

I much prefer a simple 4wd in the sand. Wonder how the Land Rovers are with an actual program in the traction/stability control that accounts for sand.
 
If you go by the mags they are unstoppable!
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2006 mountaineer - couple of questions by 97xltbeep
Jul 27, 2007 (5:36 pm)
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Hi,
where would I find the keypad passcode on a 2006 Mountaineer? I don't have the wallet card but I'm pretty sure the code is printed somewhere inside the car/engine compartment; I just can't seem to find it.
Also, would it be possible to replace the factory-installed halogen lamps with HID lamps?
Thank you.
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Re: Mountaineer AWD V8 in sand [lateralg] by sacmtnr
Jul 28, 2007 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: lateralg (Jul 27, 2007 10:50 am)

The Mountaineers have the ability to "lock" the front and rear drive lines electronically. From some things I have read this makes them virtually the same as vehicles with 4WD high.
I was just unsure how the traction control would work in sand. I didn't know if it would only provide power to one wheel until it spins and then to the next until all 4 wheels are stuck or if it would have the opposite effect by not letting any one wheel dig in before it transferred to additional wheels. I was just hoping someone else had driven their 06/07 Mountaineer in sand to lend 1st hand experience. I would rather not have to go through the learning curve and find out the hard way.
Thanks for all the info.
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Re: Mountaineer AWD V8 in sand [sacmtnr] by nbx
Jul 30, 2007 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: sacmtnr (Jul 26, 2007 8:32 am)

I have seen results of tests done by Tire Rack staff that show that it is far better in rain not to lower tire pressure. Proper inflation allows the tires' sipes and grooves to do their jobs as designed. And tires when properly inflated are surely much less subject to damage to the body of the tire, less of a chance for overheated tires.
 
Wonder if any of this holds true in the sand?
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Re: Mountaineer AWD V8 in sand [nbx] by panzer
Jul 30, 2007 (3:10 pm)
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Replying to: nbx (Jul 30, 2007 11:14 am)

Off-road in sand is a completely different animal. Lowering tire pressure works very well in sand, but never take out enough air to allow the tires to spin on the rims. The post by Steve had the proper air range for sand. Absolutely never run low tires on pavement. That is a well known safety issue. Off roading is only for people that can take full responsibility for their actions. That means air-up after you're finished playing. Also, there is a limit. Some dune sand is just too fluffy to drive a 4500 pound SUV designed to operate on the street. You'll get stuck no matter what you do.

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