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#728 of 841 Re: 2007 Explorer TPMS Display? [baggs32] by rplum Jul 10, 2007 (9:37 am)
Replying to: baggs32 (Jul 10, 2007 9:35 am) hmm ok. It looks like in some places this feature was falsely advertised to be in the 2007 Edge's Message Center, but wasn't. I was curious if Explorer has the same, or maybe even upgraded message center. Replies to this message: baggs32 (Jul 10, 2007 9:55 am)
#729 of 841 Re: 2007 Explorer TPMS Display? [rplum] by baggs32 Jul 10, 2007 (9:55 am)
Replying to: rplum (Jul 10, 2007 9:37 am) Like nvbanker said it does display that a tire is low in the message center but not which specific tire.   I didn't know you were looking to see if the message center displayed anything. There is a light too IIRC.
#730 of 841 Re: 2007 Explorer TPMS Display? [rplum] by lateralg Jul 10, 2007 (2:19 pm)
Replying to: rplum (Jul 10, 2007 9:12 am) Just the basic light. Sorry.
#731 of 841 2007 Mountaineer AWD by nbx Jul 23, 2007 (7:19 pm)
Would like for nvbanker or some of the regulars to post their take on the Mountaineer AWD system versus the 4wd currently used for Explorer. Just for demo rides the AWD in the V-6 2007 Mountaineer seems to be working really well and would be ideal for the wife's suburban use, light snow in Tennessee. No off-road at all for her.   We have 2004 Expedition NBX with 5.4L and 2003 Ford Explorer XLT in 4wd 4.6L. The 4.6L in Explorer with 3.73 ratio for trailer tow is mostly a gas hog. Does have lots of power even with older 4.6L due to the 3.73 ratio.   We found a new 2007 Mountaineer Luxury (base in 07), AWD, V-6, dual auto air, upgraded leather seats, 3.73 TT package at a very good price. Build quality, all the new safety features, air bags, etc, seem to be a lot of vehicle for the discounted price. I prefer the V-8 per nvbanker's comments, but when you go to the V-8 in the Mountaineer the pricey Premier is mandatory. Found the 07 seats to be much better, brakes better, and rear handling much improved versus the 02-05 models. Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jul 23, 2007 9:17 pm) baggs32 (Jul 24, 2007 5:02 am) panzer (Jul 24, 2007 2:19 pm) nvbanker (Jul 24, 2007 6:13 pm) baggs32 (Jul 25, 2007 9:54 am) panzer (Jul 26, 2007 12:33 pm) and 3 more... adgrant (Aug 03, 2007 5:35 pm) nbx (Jul 24, 2007 8:04 pm) pnewby (Jul 25, 2007 7:05 am)
#732 of 841 Re: 2007 Mountaineer AWD [nbx] by nvbanker Jul 23, 2007 (9:17 pm)
Replying to: nbx (Jul 23, 2007 7:19 pm) Really, the only difference between the AWD system in the Mountaineer, and the 4WD system in the Explorer, is the lack of a low range on the Mountaineer. We currently have an Explorer with 4WD, and it's fine. It actually does what the AWD system does when you have it on AUTO 4WD. But I'll tell ya this - I have driven the AWD Mountaineers in some bad snow storms - and through mud a foot deep - and it performed better than my Cadillac Escalade AWD did for sure. It got me places the Cadillac won't go, and was the most stable driving system I've ever experienced. It felt impossible to stick in the snow, like it was glued to the road. I'm a big fan of the AWD. We have had no issues with the Explorer system either. Replies to this message: baggs32 (Jul 24, 2007 5:02 am)
#733 of 841 Re: 2007 Mountaineer AWD [nvbanker] by baggs32 Jul 24, 2007 (5:02 am)
Replying to: nvbanker (Jul 23, 2007 9:17 pm) Really, the only difference between the AWD system in the Mountaineer, and the 4WD system in the Explorer, is the lack of a low range on the Mountaineer.   There's a low, high, and auto setting in the Explorer just to make that clear. IIRC the AWD system in the Mountaineer is, like you said, the auto setting in the Explorer. We've had no problem in the snow, mud, loose gravel, etc with the auto setting but I do like the high setting on ice. It's not necessary for the ice, but nice to have. I plan to try the low setting when we drive on the beach this summer but haven't had any use for it yet. Therefore I'd say the AWD is probably all you'll ever need.
#734 of 841 Re: 2007 Mountaineer AWD [nbx] by panzer Jul 24, 2007 (2:19 pm)
Replying to: nbx (Jul 23, 2007 7:19 pm) The AWD with high range only is fine for most people. Low range is not at all useful for any paved road, including snowy ones. The car doesnt have enough ground clearance to go where low range would be useful. When it's snowy and icy on the road, I usually lock it in 4WD to avoid the clunk when the front axle decides to hook up. Otherwise it stays in AWD and is forgotten. The 2006-7 Explorer-Mountaineer works well in the snow, but that's as much a function of the tires as the car. Mine came with Michelin Cross Terrains, which have proven a good all-season compromise in other SUV's I've owned. I live in Colorado. We see a little snow from time to time. The V6 will also serve most people just fine, but the gas mileage is only 1 or maybe 2 mpg better. If you really are planning on towing, get the V8, in an Explorer if you have to. It would be better to have a V8 Explorer than a V6 Mountaineer, dollars to dollars. Not only that, but the V8 sounds and feels like a real motor, the V6 sounds like a V6. BTW, the V8 gets a 3.55 rear end and that's all it needs. Mash the accelerator on an on-ramp and you'll see what I mean. Sure wish I could turn off the stability control. Makes life miserable in the sand. The Explorer-Mountaineer is really a poor excuse for a Jeep, but works well on the road and is quiet and comfortable. Some Jeeps are poor excuses for Jeeps though. Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jul 24, 2007 6:13 pm) baggs32 (Jul 25, 2007 9:54 am) panzer (Jul 26, 2007 12:33 pm) tidester (Jul 26, 2007 8:25 pm) and 2 more... adgrant (Aug 03, 2007 5:35 pm)
#735 of 841 Re: 2007 Mountaineer AWD [panzer] by nvbanker Jul 24, 2007 (6:13 pm)
Replying to: panzer (Jul 24, 2007 2:19 pm) I agree with everything you said, Panzer. You explained it better and in more detail than I bothered to do. On the Jeep comment, you're right, the Explorer isn't made for rock crawling at all. Anything tougher than gravel or a graded road is inappropriate for it. Jeeps do much better at this - but will give you spine compression on the paved road. Depends on what your needs, or wants are.
#736 of 841 Re: 2007 Mountaineer AWD [nbx] by nbx Jul 24, 2007 (8:04 pm)
Replying to: nbx (Jul 23, 2007 7:19 pm) Can you reply to your own post? Ha!   Thanks for the insight.   Just today Ford agreed to spring for the third rearend in our 2003 Explorer XLT, 4wd 4.6L, 3.73 with TT package, safety canopy. Hate to part with such nice vehicle due to all around performance. Modest to poor gas mileage is main negative. Like the 2007 Mountaineer AWD/Explorer 4wd due to new seats, brakes, rear handling, better NVH control. But, may just wear out the 4.6L in the 03 Explorer.   By the way traded 97 Ford T/B 4.6L on new red 2007 Camry LE V-6 for daughter who will be teaching at UGA in Athens next fall. Tried out Camry SE in V-6 that was great but bought the LE model. The T/B had 190,000 on 4.6L--not using hardly any oil and would have run on many more thousands. Belt and plugs and plug wires and factory recall on intake only replacement. Even alternator still the original. A/C still cold on vehicle built in August 1996. OEM Ford battery lasted 9 yrs. Tranny getting weak but still the original. Old T/B with Sport option, factory spoiler, rear l/s axle, 225/60/16 tires still fun to drive.   New V-6 in Camry with new six speed auto sweet,fast. Excellent EPA numbers for V-6 with 268 hp.   ..again thanks for the replies.. Replies to this message: pnewby (Jul 25, 2007 7:05 am)
#737 of 841 Re: 2007 Mountaineer AWD [nbx] by pnewby Jul 25, 2007 (7:05 am)
Replying to: nbx (Jul 24, 2007 8:04 pm) I'll agree with the rock crawling comment, except that the biggest limiting factor for any brand is the wheel base. All things being equal, the wheel base is the biggest difference. Shorter wheel base = better rock crawling ability. As for the 4WD low, I did use it in snow once, and it will pull you through drifts that 4WD high will not, but that is not something most of us see very often. In the snow, if you have enough traction, ground clearance is not quite as critical. Kinda the snow plow syndrome I guess.

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