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#35 of 84 [gagrice]#29 RESPONSE TO HIGH SPEED PRIUS by railroadjames

Mar 12, 2005 (11:23 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 10, 2005 6:22 pm)
GET SURPRISED GARY! I've had my Prius well over 100MPH but of course that is not sustained for long 'cause I frown on Speed'g tickets. The standard tires on my Prius are not rated for performance hi speeds. I've driven 75-80 for over an hour several times and sustained 46 mpg's on level terrain. You really should try one Gary. They are Inspiring!
Culliganman(my next set of rubber will definitly be performance rated)

#36 of 84 Re: [gagrice]#29 RESPONSE TO HIGH SPEED PRIUS [railroadjames] by joebeatt

Mar 12, 2005 (7:20 pm)

Replying to: railroadjames (Mar 12, 2005 11:23 am)
Hi railroadjames. I'm surprised to read that the standard tires on your Prius are not rated for performance hi speeds. In Europe your get your Prius on tires that would easily do 140 mph for an infinite amount of time (Michelin Pilot Premacy). What kind of tires do you get in the USA? (Sorry Sylvia, do you allow me to ask this question on the "World's Cleanest Cars" forum, or should I move on? <) )

#37 of 84 Prius equipment by pf_flyer HOST

Mar 13, 2005 (8:14 am)

Probably better to discuss how the Prius is equipped in the main Prius topic:
 
railroadjames, "Toyota Prius 2004+" #4122, 12 Mar 2005 7:16 pm

#38 of 84 Re: Prius equipment [pf_flyer] by joebeatt

Mar 13, 2005 (8:25 am)

Replying to: pf_flyer (Mar 13, 2005 8:14 am)
OK. Thanks pf_flyer! The question about the forum was a little bit cynical, because Sylvia kicked me out in another thread for not sticking to the topic. Railroadjames, I moved the question to the Prius 2004+ forum. Would you be so kind as to post your answer there?

#39 of 84 heh by pf_flyer HOST

Mar 13, 2005 (12:58 pm)

It's always a good idea to stay on the right side of things!

#40 of 84 World's cleanest diesels? by gagrice

Mar 13, 2005 (6:30 pm)

Toyota claims to be building the cleanest diesels in the world for sale in the EU.
 
http://www.carpages.co.uk/toyota/toyota-avensis-part-1-02-03-05.asp

#41 of 84 Re: World's cleanest diesels? [gagrice] by joebeatt

Mar 14, 2005 (1:00 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 13, 2005 6:30 pm)
Hi gagrice. Yep, I believe them. The Dutch highway patrol did an investigation on the negative effects of cars on the environment. The results for gasoline cars:
 
http://www.anwb.nl/published/anwbcms/content/binaire-bestanden/pdfs/auto/tests/filename339- - - - - - - - - - - - 54_126571.pdf
 
The results for diesel cars:
 
http://www.anwb.nl/published/anwbcms/content/binaire-bestanden/pdfs/auto/tests/filename339- - - - - - - - - - - - 48_126581.pdf
 
Indeed, Toyota rated very well in these tests.
 
All this explains why I'm a little bit of a "crusader" against diesels. The standard diesels are VERY dirty, because of the PM emissions, which are lethal. Still it seems that with filters and other new techniques you could solve the PM problem. It's now up to the customer and the politicians to make sure that, from now on, only near-zero PM diesels are allowed to be sold. This should also apply to lorries, construction equipment, etc. For the moment almost all diesels sold are still dirty.
 
The only reserve I make is that I would like to see proof that these new filters will continue to be effective over more than 100,000 miles. Once I have this proof, and all diesels sold are "clean", you won't hear me anymore on "diesel kills".
 
By the way: I just heard that for the moment VW will stop selling the Touareg V10 TDI in the USA:
 
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/78743
 
They are not able to deliver the necessary proof about environment impact to the EPA. Didn't I tell you that, once you aware that "diesel kills", you will news relating to that everywhere? This is what I call good news, because the V10 TDI is the dirtiest car in the world. Things seem to be moving a bit.

#43 of 84 Re: gasoline kills too [joebeatt] by stevedebi

Mar 14, 2005 (1:49 pm)

Replying to: joebeatt (Mar 12, 2005 6:28 am)
"Only if you are an "Autobahn" adept AND you choose the right place AND you choose the right time, only then will you find your Prius to be too slow."
 
Unless things have changed since I lived in Germany, there is almost more construction on the autobahns that here is clear unlimited-speed portions. So the Prius would do just fine for many stretches of the autobahn... about 60 km/hr!

#44 of 84 Complacency by yerth10

Mar 14, 2005 (2:29 pm)

Europeans keep saying that Diesel is better than Hybrids. 1 fine day, Toyota will bring a Diesel-Electric Hybrid to market at probably 80 MPG and stun everyone.
 
In 1990's GM kept saying that Hybrid will cost 10 K more and down came Prius at 23K and took the market by storm.
 
Better the Europeans dont repeat the mistake of GM.

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