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MSRP discount? by ysleep
Aug 04, 2005 (2:28 pm)
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We are in the market for an R class but hate the idea of having to pay full MSRP on a car we won't even get a chance to test drive and is in its first year of production. In particular when it is coming out of the same manufacturing plant that has had difficulties in the past. I have called a couple of local dealers and they are insisting on the full MSRP. They both say that they have low margins on the car. How likely am I to pay less than MSRP if I wait a few months on the purchase? Those of you who have ordered the vehicle, where you able to get any discount? Any advice on getting a better price?
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I don't think anyone by scott1256
Aug 05, 2005 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: rockypaul (Jul 20, 2005 1:28 pm)

here thinks the R is a disguised Pacifica.
 
The point several posters have made is that it looks very much like a Pacifica.
 
Similar styling among MB/Chrysler/Dodge products may be inevitable now.....
 
IMO it is a mistake to let the R resemble the Pacifica so closely.
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R class by teds1
Aug 05, 2005 (8:31 am)
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I loved the R class at the NY auto show when I saw it up close... very classy even Maybach Classy. I'd like to be driven in it but as far as a purchase, not really my style. I love that there is a movement towards large respectable non SUV luxo haulers though. Down with escalades.
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Re: I don't think anyone [scott1256] by djag
Aug 06, 2005 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Aug 05, 2005 6:18 am)

It is essentially a Pacifica with a slightly longer and narrower body. Even the option list is about the same except the R is higher. The Pacifica has a terrific nav system located in the center of the speedo. But even the dash resembles the Pacifica a little. The drive train and suspension for both is from the E model. There is a strong resemblance in the two designs but of course the Mercedes trim and the V8 will attract many buyers who are willing to pay the extra price.
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Re: I don't think anyone [djag] by merc1
Aug 12, 2005 (1:19 am)
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Replying to: djag (Aug 06, 2005 6:47 pm)

The drivetrain for the Pacifica is not from the E-Class and neither is the suspension. The Pacifica has a similar design made from iron as opposed to aluminum on the previous Benz E-Class. The Pacific's engine is pure Chrysler.
 
The R-Class shares nothing but a similar theme with the Pacifica.
 
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R-Class by merc1
Aug 12, 2005 (1:20 am)
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Edmunds has a pretty good review of the R-Class.
 
R-Class
 
They seem to like it a lot, but it is pricey for a loaded R500.
 
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Re: R-Class [merc1] by rjlaero
Aug 12, 2005 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Aug 12, 2005 1:20 am)

I'm not into the styling direction of the R class. Too much swoopy styling that looks like a mixed bag of Chrysler, Cadillac, & MB all rolled into one. I think Audi's Q7 is a lot sexier, and would rather spend my money there. 73k for a loaded R500 is a bit steep to spend on a suedo looking van.
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Re: I don't think anyone [merc1] by djag
Aug 12, 2005 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Aug 12, 2005 1:19 am)

The Pacifica uses a five-link independent rear suspension that was optimized in the Mercedes-Benz driving simulator in Berlin. Its architecture (not parts) is borrowed from the recently redesigned Mercedes-Benz E-Class sedan. The four-wheel independent suspension allows the Pacifica to provide a soft ride, more like a car than a truck-based SUV. There's also a standard load-leveling system that will help keep the vehicle from sagging under added weight. Parts are aluminum. (Edmunds)
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Re: I don't think anyone [djag] by merc1
Aug 12, 2005 (7:43 pm)
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Replying to: djag (Aug 12, 2005 3:29 pm)

Its pretty much what I said. The Pacifica uses parts inspired by the E-Class, that previous one that is. That R and Pacifica don't use any interchangeable parts was my point. Everyone knows that a lot of the R&D was carried out by MB in Germany.
 
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Re: borrowed from new E version by djag
Aug 13, 2005 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Aug 12, 2005 7:43 pm)

It is borrowed from the new E version "the recently redesigned" version.

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