Mercedes-Benz R-Class

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#28 of 697 Re: CDI and Diesel by ichen

Jun 12, 2005 (8:27 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jun 11, 2005 6:29 pm)
I'm going to hazard a guess and say we may or may not see the R diesel until 07 year (maybe - depending on how our ULSD goes) - Mercedes obviously has the new V6 since they showed it off in the 3 E320 V6 CDI's that just set new world records..
but they can't introduce them this year, so my guess would be as a '06 or 07' v6 e320 cdi which puts it fall of 2006 maybe at the earliest..
.. which would probably but the R320 CDI at the earliest around the same time.. all dependent on the ULSD of course. For now, we decided to go one suv, one sedan (instead of the two suvs), which will help some with the $ and gas.. and when the R320 cdi comes out, we'll consider that..
 
... interestingly, as I learn more about diesels, i came across a lot of articles also about biodiesel, that it would work just as well.. Anyone know what the MB line is on this biodiesel, and warranty issues, and can they even figure out that you've used it?

#29 of 697 2006 R-Class Ordering by drivenow

Jun 12, 2005 (10:17 am)

My dealer can custom order an R500 for me from his special MB dealer's computer....However, there's no published guide that I can refer to...I want to get this order right, not forget anything...It seems the 2006 ML ordering guide (on Edmunds, MBUSA.com...) is similar to the R-Class ordering info (presently ONLY available to MB dealers)...Does anyone have any link to a consumer friendly R-Class ordering guide?? Thanks

#30 of 697 Re: CDI and Diesel [ichen] by gagrice

Jun 12, 2005 (10:57 am)

Replying to: ichen (Jun 12, 2005 8:27 am)
Anyone know what the MB line is on this biodiesel
 
I talked to MB in Hawaii and their first reaction was negative. The reason being there are no standards to which biodiesel has to adhere. Many people in the islands are running B100 as it is very competitive to regular diesel price wise. Willie Nelson for one has run only B100 in his E320 CDI since it was new. His wife runs it in her Passat. Several other entertainers on Maui use it exclusively. Wille liked it so much he is now a spokesman for biodiesel is several parts of the USA.
 
As far as warranty. If they can prove the biodiesel caused the problem they can void your warranty. That is the law. I don't think I would be getting old cooking oil from McDees and running it in my new Mercedes. Use a reputable supplier and it is great stuff.

#31 of 697 Questions on gas mileage and newer diesel by mandochop

Jun 13, 2005 (8:13 am)

Hi all,
 
The R class looks good for our family for a number of reasons. I have two questions about fuel economy and fuel type.
 
First, any guesses on the fuel economy of the gasoline models coming out this fall? While poking around on some UK sites it seems as if the V6 might get close to 30 mpg. Any ideas /guesses on this? What about the V8? (and PS, what does cdi mean?)
 
Second, I've read the few posts here about diesel. Don't know much about that. So there is a new low sulphur diesel fuel that will be available? Will it be available here in the states? Any guesses if an R series diesel will be with this new diesel fuel or the current stuff?
 
Well, it's probably clear that I don't know much about these sorts of things. ve found no definitive info from MBZ, so I'd guess that responses are probably conjecture. Please let me know how / why you have the opinion and info that you do on these questions.
 
Thanks in advance!

#32 of 697 Re: Questions on gas mileage and newer diesel [mandochop] by gagrice

Jun 13, 2005 (11:30 am)

Replying to: mandochop (Jun 13, 2005 8:13 am)
Welcome to the forum. MB has put out a little on the engines they will offer for the "R" class vehicles. What I read was first we get the gas versions 350 & 500 same as the ML. Next and in conjunction with the mandate on ULSD for the entire USA, they will add the 320 V6 CDI (diesel) & a possible diesel/hybrid. I would be surprised if the diesel R shows up before the first part of 2007. That is what I am holding out for. Here is some info on that diesel engine and what it is capable of.
 
http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2050502.003/mercedes/1.html

#33 of 697 Re: Questions on gas mileage and newer diesel [mandochop] by gagrice

Jun 13, 2005 (11:41 am)

Replying to: mandochop (Jun 13, 2005 8:13 am)
Common-rail Direct Injection (CDI) That is Mercedes newest diesel technology.

#34 of 697 Re: Questions on gas mileage and newer diesel [mandochop] by mandochop

Jun 13, 2005 (1:40 pm)

Replying to: mandochop (Jun 13, 2005 8:13 am)
Thanks for the info and the link to the article about the diesel engine... very impressive to say the least, I can see why you might hold out for it. Actually, makes me think that might be the right thing for us to do, too...
 
Can anyone tell me the mileage for the two M Class engines? I'd appreciate that, too.

#37 of 697 Re: Questions on gas mileage and newer diesel [mandochop] by stroudman

Jun 16, 2005 (2:05 pm)

Replying to: mandochop (Jun 13, 2005 1:40 pm)
A visit to your local MB dealer to test drive the new M-class will tell you more than half of what you might be wondering as far as Drivability, fit and finish, acceleration and braking. You can probably expect 3-5 miles better per gallon in the R vs. the M, realistically. Premium fuel.
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