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#31 of 1634 Re: Caliber: I like it. [leadfoot_ed] by alpha01 May 01, 2005 (3:25 pm)
Replying to: leadfoot_ed (Apr 30, 2005 8:39 am) I'm not sure why a company affiliated with Mercedes Benz, which has some outstanding diesel engines, would be offering a VW sourced engine?   ~alpha Replies to this message: leadfoot_ed (May 02, 2005 12:03 pm)
#32 of 1634 Re: Caliber: I like it. [alpha01] by leadfoot_ed May 02, 2005 (12:03 pm)
Replying to: alpha01 (May 01, 2005 3:25 pm) I'm not sure why a company affiliated with Mercedes Benz, which has some outstanding diesel engines, would be offering a VW sourced engine?    ~alpha ************************************************* Yes, it's a bit strange that DC is buying diesels from one of their biggest competitors (in Europe, at least). I think it's a matter of having a right-sized engine for this application that has already passed (or is in the certification process of meeting) U.S. emissions standards, rather than developing one from scratch. I think most of DC's existing diesels are either too big (Mercedes E320 CDI) or too small (A-class or Smart). My guess is that in 2-3 years, depending on the popularity of the diesel option, they will have developed and will offer their own 4-cyl diesel of similar power & displacement to the VW unit.
#33 of 1634 Caliber engines by jhilke May 02, 2005 (6:08 pm)
Hi everybody: This is my first knowledge of the Caliber as of May 2. Am I to understand they will offer the VW 1.9 TD engine? What about the gear box? Please, somebody inform me. Thanks. jhilke Replies to this message: leadfoot_ed (May 05, 2005 10:18 am)
#34 of 1634 Re: Caliber engines [jhilke] by leadfoot_ed May 05, 2005 (10:18 am)
Replying to: jhilke (May 02, 2005 6:08 pm) Allpar (http://www.allpar.com) seems to have some insider info on the Caliber. The rumor is that it might have the 16-valve 2.0L diesel similar to the one in the Passat, and currently offered in some of its European variants, like the Golf-based Touran tall-wagon. The output for this engine is approximately 140 horsepower and 236 lbs./ft. of torque. Definitely more interesting than the 100 hp and 177 lbs./ft. of the current 8-valve 1.9L TDI. As far as the tranny, it looks like it will be a 6-speed of some sort. ************************************************************************************* Hi everybody: This is my first knowledge of the Caliber as of May 2. Am I to understand they will offer the VW 1.9 TD engine? What about the gear box? Please, somebody inform me. Thanks. jhilke
#35 of 1634 toyota tc comparison by donkill May 19, 2005 (12:37 pm)
hey people , everyone keeps comparing this to the toyota matrix what about the scion tc?I just bought one and the only thing in its price range that compares is the mazda 3 and the mazda scares me since ford has there incompetant hands in the car.Before the ford fans rip me a new one Ihave owend nothing but fords untill I got this tc .I just traded in my zx3 with 5grand in upgrades and only 36,000mi becuse I treated the damn thing Like Royalty and it still broke down twice ayear like clockwork.On a side note my last ford truck lasted 10 years without one breakdown. Replies to this message: medinamalibu (May 19, 2005 8:33 pm)
#36 of 1634 Re: toyota tc comparison [donkill] by medinamalibu May 19, 2005 (8:33 pm)
Replying to: donkill (May 19, 2005 12:37 pm) Isn't the tC a sporty coupe? I don't see much to compare with the Caliber there.
#37 of 1634 Hmm by chris65amg May 21, 2005 (12:46 pm)
I do. They're both really useful for more active people without being an Exploder. Dodge wants young people to but this one, I believe. Replies to this message: biggus3 (May 22, 2005 11:18 pm)
#38 of 1634 Re: Hmm [chris65amg] by biggus3 May 22, 2005 (11:18 pm)
Replying to: chris65amg (May 21, 2005 12:46 pm) I dont. They may cost the same, but they are marketed two very different ways. Comparing a two door to a five door may be valid in the sense of price, but I reckon most people will search out the Caliber for the functionality it gives while not being boring. You cant make that argument for the tc. The tc is also probably going to be much sportier that the Caliber. Unless Dodge nails it, its not going to handle anywhere near the tc. So if you are looking for sportiness, you are probably more likely to lean toward the tc. If you are looking at something practical, you would look at the caliber.   They are both good cars, but in two different ballparks.   On a side note, you should just buy a Mazda3 hatch. It trumps them both. But Ill save that for another forum topic.
#39 of 1634 Caliber/Outlander? by charley9 May 28, 2005 (5:54 am)
I happened to notice some preliminary spec's and a picture for the '06-'07 (?) Mitsubishi Outlander and was doing a casual comparison to the Caliber. Seemed like there were quite a few similarities...Lancer platform, engines including a mention of the VW diesel. Seemed like the appearance of the bodies might be close too. Anybody else see this or am I dreaming? I guess I am curious because Chrysler has gone down this road before with Mitsu......
#40 of 1634 Availability by oldsven Jul 06, 2005 (6:46 am)
Does anybody out there know when it will be shipped to dealers? Replies to this message: farout (Jul 26, 2005 4:21 pm)

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