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Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS by germancarfan1
Dec 19, 2006 (6:46 am)
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Well, if you needed another reason not to buy the Accent, here it is: Awful IIHS scores. It's pretty much a death trap.
 
Side impact: POOR
Rear impact: POOR
Front impact: Acceptable
 
The Accent is the only small car tested, aside from the Aveo, that didn't receive a good frontal test. In addition, both the Yaris and Fit received good side impact scores (and good frontal impact). These scores pretty much solidify what many have suspected all along, exploding airbags won't make up from a poorly constructed body.
 
Measures taken from the dummy indicate that rib fractures and/or internal organ injuries plus a fracture of the pelvis would be likely in a crash of this severity. In addition, loading to the shoulder was excessive.
Yikes!
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Re: Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS [germancarfan1] by backy
Dec 19, 2006 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: germancarfan1 (May 30, 2006 1:56 am)

Yes, those are poor scores and takes the Accent off my "consider" list, which is unfortunate because I like the car otherwise. Pretty amazing Hyundai would let the design go forward knowing these would be the crash test results.
 
If Hyundai doesn't address this issue aggressively, it will definitely hurt sales since there are other small cars out there available with standard SABs that did much better in the IIHS tests. The fact that the IIHS released the results tells me Hyundai doesn't plan to do anything in the near future, otherwise it's typical for the IIHS to hold up publishing the results before the manufacturer has made some modifications and requested a re-test.
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Re: Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS [backy] by germancarfan1
Dec 19, 2006 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 19, 2006 7:33 am)

Well stated.
 
The fact is, Hyundai would rather save money and equipp its cars with air bags aplenty, then actually spend the R&D and manufacuring costs to produce a safe structered car. Hyundai does have a ways to go.
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Re: Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS [germancarfan1] by backy
Dec 19, 2006 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: germancarfan1 (Dec 19, 2006 7:39 am)

The puzzling thing is, since Hyundai has done pretty well in crash safety on their other "24x7" designs, particularly with the Entourage, it's really strange they didn't emphasize crash safety more with the Accent.
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Re: Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS [backy] by germancarfan1
Dec 19, 2006 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 19, 2006 7:46 am)

Costs had to be cut somewhere and safety was the one to go on the Accent. But this should be no surprise to anyone that has test driven or even opened the doors on an Accent. They always felt thin and flimsy to me, far more so than the Fit or Rabbit, and even far more so than other Hyundai models (Sonata has nice solid doors).
 
If I was Hyundai, I'd drop the Accent line completely. They don't sell well and all the model does is hurt the reputation of the other models that are decent.
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Re: Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS [germancarfan1] by backy
Dec 19, 2006 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: germancarfan1 (Dec 19, 2006 7:50 am)

Like other automakers, Hyundai needs an entry-level model to draw new buyers into the brand. And believe it or not, many of these buyers don't put crash safety anywhere near the top of their requirements list. I've seen that opinion stated many times in Town Hall.
 
Also, we don't know yet how Hyundai will respond to these results, or whether it's possible to improve them without major changes to the car.
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Re: Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS [germancarfan1] by sonatabean
Dec 19, 2006 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: germancarfan1 (May 30, 2006 1:56 am)

I see VW America's strident little web intern is back: I bothered to check out the IIHP results.
 
Here they are. Not far off what German Car Employee reports . . . but not exactly fully truthful (as usual), either.
 
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=586
 
#560 of 565 Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS by germancarfan1
 
Dec 19, 2006 (6:46 am)
  
Well, if you needed another reason not to buy the Accent, here it is: Awful IIHS scores. It's pretty much a death trap.
  
Side impact: POOR
Rear impact: POOR
Front impact: Acceptable
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Re: Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS [sonatabean] by sonatabean
Dec 19, 2006 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: sonatabean (Dec 19, 2006 2:13 pm)

In the interest of full disclosure, here's the full set of test results.
 
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=715
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Re: Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS [sonatabean] by backy
Dec 19, 2006 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: sonatabean (Dec 19, 2006 2:13 pm)

Actually, germancarfan1's post re the Accent's scores was accurate. They were Acceptable overall on frontal impact, Poor overall on side impact, and Poor on rear impact.
 
"Death trap" is hyperbole of course, but worst-in-class on crash tests is not a good thing--especially for a car company that touts the safety of its cars at every opportunity.
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Re: Another nail in the Accent coffin: IIHS [backy] by micweb
Dec 19, 2006 (4:31 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 19, 2006 2:29 pm)

I think Hyundai has to build the Accent and Rio to be cost competitive in Asian and Latin markets; even low-end Euro. In Asian markets, they don't have much in the way of airbags, even front airbags (passenger front airbags are even extra cost options on Toyotas in Thailand!).
 
So to make the Accent/Rio "upscale" for America, Hyundai just installs the extra gear it's easy to leave out in Asian markets. But the cost of the basic "chassis" isn't increased across the board.
 
Honda uses high strength steels in selected areas of the Fit, and Subaru and Volvo do the same. VW does extra chassis spot welding on its Golf/Rabbit/Jetta series to increase body rigidity. I suspect Hyundai on the Accent/Rio, and Chevy/Daweoo on the Aveo, use cheaper steels, with fewer inventory tracking issues, and fewer welds. Thus the basic costs, which impact every market (including Asia and Latin America) aren't driven up. It's not a question of lacking technical expertise to build a tougher body structure, its the need to keep basic costs down.
 
In Hyundai's defense, and Chevy's defense, they DO give you side protection - side protection that will work a lot better in MOST side crashes. I question whether the Fit is actually that much more "survivable" than the Hyundai/Aveo if you up the crash speed or crash vehicle weight. The failure zone is very narrow indeed, and a vehicle that you can survive nicely at 30 might fail at 35 or 37 or 40...but it's not like there's going to be a BIG spread in survivability speeds/weights.
 
The Insurance Institute itself pretty much tells us you are better off in a larger car.
 
Yeah, death trap is hyperbole. BUT Hyundai is creating a serious perception gap by building tough minivans and fragile minicars - I wouldn't want my kid in one, even with all those airbags. On the other hand, it's getting harder and harder to imagine buying any vehicle without side curtain airbags these days, and I am a real car fanatic, it's taken the last 5 years for it to sink in how important these side curtain airbags are.
 
Meanwhile, a friend at work won't even upgrade to a post-1995 car with side impact beams; she's driving around in a beamless Camry, lot of protection there, huh, even less...much less... than the last ranked modern cars.

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