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Hyundai Accent, Coupe, Hatchback
#290 of 624 mini car watch
Mar 22, 2006 (7:16 pm)
Millennium Hyundai, Hempstead: 2006 Accent(new model?)march 19 rebates: $2000 double rebate+ $500 military+ 400 college grad. My Toyota pickup (240,000 miles) was vandalized, so looking for "Best buy" mini. Wow, cant wait for the NY Easter car show to see & compare the new minis. Full support for thighs is crucial. Don't like not seeing nothing after the front windshield. The 2007 Accent GL 3 door seems to be the front runner. Suspect the Yaris wiil be let down by seat cushions with no support. The new Civics emergency brake makes contact with the knee. Owned a Fiat 600, & a bug-eyed Sprite. Cant wait to drive the Fit, Accent, Versa, Yaris. Its a shame that the Aveo has such a limited warranty. Rules it out immediately.
#291 of 624 Accent 3dr
Mar 22, 2006 (8:02 pm)
I am digging the 3 door. Just a little over $10K, and a looker too
SE trim looks even more attractive, and possibly sportiest of all other hatchbacks mentioned (Versa, Fit, Yaris) - sport-tuned, 16" wheels, light weight (lighest I believe, around 2,300 lbs).
#292 of 624 Re: Versa Pricing vs Accent [delta4]
Mar 23, 2006 (6:50 am)
Not quite sure what you mean by "pricing and packaging smartly well ahead of the Fit." As I read the numbers, there is only a few hundred dollars difference in price for similarly-equipped cars. For example, the Fit Manual is $14,400 and the closest Accent, the Accent Manual with Premium Sport, is $14,495. However, the Accent has alloys (for '07 there will be a power package available w/o alloys). So I think Hyundai will need to continue rebates and discounts to compete against the Fit, given Honda's historically better resale value vs. Hyundai.
As for packaging, I think the packaging on the Fit is smarter than the Accent's. The Fit's "magic seats" are amazing in their versatility. Rear legroom is about the same even though the Fit is shorter. Interior materials quality is about the same. The Accent has a few advantages, such as a more adjustable driver's seat (no height adjuster on the Fit) and niceties like rear center armrest and lighted vanity mirrors.
#293 of 624 I finally pulled the trigger, but not Accent.....
Mar 24, 2006 (2:09 pm)
After following this Blog on the 06 Accent since late last Summer (05) an eagerly awaiting the Fall release of the 06 Accent which debuted very uneventfully late Dec. 05 with one or two vehicles per dealer, I finally pulled the trigger an bought an 06 Hyundia, but NOT an Accent. Drove an Accent and after drove an 06 Sonata with I4. Both had similiar safety equiptment and automatic transmission. The GLS Sonata had a power sun roof unavailable on the Accent and a much larger and more powerful 2.4 liter I4 engine vs the 1.6 I4 in the Accent. Highway m.p.g. was listed at 36 for the Accent and 33 m.p.g. for the Sonata. The difference in comfort, acceleration, handling, was well worth the 3 m.p.g. hit along with the total luxury experience the Sonata afforded. The Sonata ran just under $17,000. plus tax, title, tags which included all available rebates with exception of no loyalty, recent college grad, or active military. The Accent would have cost just $2500. less with NO power sunroof. I know one does`nt buy a vehicle on a price per pound basis like cheese or cold cuts BUT, you get soooo much more car for so little more, to me its a no brainer. Only had it a week so far, but its a great car. Check the Sonata out before deciding on that cute little Flintstone car.
#294 of 624 Re: I finally pulled the trigger, but not Accent..... [phill1]
Mar 24, 2006 (5:08 pm)
Congrats on your new car. I understand where you are coming from--the Sonata is a lot of car for the money. Then there's the car in between the Accent and Sonata, the Elantra--a lot of car for the dollar there too. I think Hyundai moved the price up too much, too quickly on the Accent.
#295 of 624 Re: Versa Pricing vs Accent [backy]
Mar 24, 2006 (5:38 pm)
"Not quite sure what you mean by "pricing and packaging smartly well ahead of the Fit." As I read the numbers, there is only a few hundred dollars difference in price for similarly-equipped cars." - backy
I'm puzzled by this comment. In this segment where profits are squeezed, a few hundreds dollars here and there adds up. Also considering that Hyundai now has a $1k rebate on Accent, positions the Accent as the value leader overall. If Honda intends to offer a matching rebate to counter Hyundai's Accent then the Honda Fit will definitely come out ahead in terms overall pricing/packaging.
There is no doubt that Accent wins the price/value contest based on the numbers.
#296 of 624 Re: Versa Pricing vs Accent [delta4]
Mar 25, 2006 (7:28 am)
Sure, a few hundred dollars adds up--but does it put the Accent's pricing "smartly well ahead of the Fit"? Also, I thought we were talking about comparing list prices, not special offers which come and go like the wind. The intangible is out-the-door price. I do expect Hyundai dealers to be more willing to deal on Accents than Honda dealers will on Fits, at least while the Fit is a new model in the U.S. But for now, we have no data comparing out-the-door pricing of Fits and Accents so it's a little hard to make a comparison there.
As for value, that is not just measured by list prices. For example, what if Fits are snapped up off dealer lots at full MSRP as fast as they can be delivered while discounted/rebated Accents sit? What does that say about the public's perception of value?
I still don't understand your comment about the Accent being well ahead of the Fit in packaging.
#297 of 624 Re: Versa Pricing vs Accent [backy]
Mar 25, 2006 (9:12 am)
The Accent is well ahead of the fit in packaging and pricing based on the target demographics for this segment, who are early first time buyers or new car buyers on a tight budget. The starting price of the 3 door Accent is around $10,995. The Accent 4dr begins at 12,455. Both vehicles are equipped with std front/side/curtain air bags and ABS. Extras are a/c and power package. This keeps the initial price down and therefore allows Hyundai to keep Accent's pricing elastic if not more flexible and aggressive. From a marketing/packaging standpoint this is a smart move. It allows more buyers flexibility to "build" their own car.
However this last point should be obvious. Additionally, you mentioned that rebates are not the last word on value. So why do manufacturer's including Honda offer them? No one knows how the Fit will compete against the Accent. No one knows whether Honda will be able to maintain margins on the Fit.
Honda recently slowed production of their much ballyhooed Ridgeline. At last count it had 53 to 72 day supply on dealer lots. Honda To Cut Production Of Slow Selling Ridgeline
#298 of 624 Re: Versa Pricing vs Accent [delta4]
Mar 25, 2006 (11:40 am)
Well, IMO the Ridgeline is an ugly, poor excuse for a truck--that may be why it's not meeting sales expectations. But it has nothing to do with the Accent vs. Fit discussion, does it?
I thought by "packaging" you were referring to the packaging of the car itself, not how options are packaged. It is true that the Accent starts at a lower price and has more option packages available. But this is an advantage only for people who want the stripped models. I have yet to see a '06 Accent on the lot w/o A/C--and I'm in Minnesota! So making A/C optional may cut the advertised price of the car but not the real price. For people like me who want all the safety features (including ABS and side bags/curtains) and power windows & locks, the Fit's packaging is better. And it doesn't force me to get options I don't want (like alloys) by throwing them into one huge package rather than offering them separately. (I notice Hyundai is tweaking the packaging on the Accent for 2007 though.)
To my knowledge, Honda has not offered direct-to-consumer rebates in the past few years on any of its cars. I doubt they will need to resort to rebates for a car like the Fit that will be priced about the same as its Korean competitors and available in small numbers.
Mar 25, 2006 (12:56 pm)
will need to offer rebates on the new Fit. It seems to be generating tons of interest and Honda will probably not be able to produce enough of them to fulfill all American orders for them.
They are already such a nice price, the first Honda's since the tiny Hondacar of the late 70's that is reasonably priced, IMO. I will even take a short gander at them.