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#238 of 624 ooiringo... by iluvmysephia1

Dec 31, 2005 (10:05 pm)

if you would please continue to add interesting tidbits about your 2006 Hyundai Accent as your ownership experience unfolds, OK?
 
Congratulations! I hope to have either a 2006 Hyundai Sonata GL in 5-speed form or a 2006 Kia Rio5 in 5-speed form towards late January-early February of 2006. I want to get the maximum number of rebates, new grad discounts, sales, anything, etc. that I possibly can before I buy.
 
If the sale doesn't feel right I'll just hang onto my very fine 2001 Kia Sportage 4x4 for a while longer.

#239 of 624 Re: I bought a blue one [ooiringo] by backy

Dec 31, 2005 (11:11 pm)

Replying to: ooiringo (Dec 31, 2005 8:10 pm)
Congrats! Can you please tell us the equipment on your car and also what you paid for it (total, and before tax & license)? I am curious if you got any kind of discount on one of the first '06 Accent 4-doors going out the door.

#240 of 624 Re: I bought a blue one [ooiringo] by allfiredup

Dec 31, 2005 (11:42 pm)

Replying to: ooiringo (Dec 31, 2005 8:10 pm)
Did you get a 5-speed manual or the automatic transmission?

#241 of 624 Re: Wow! [allfiredup] by lexuslover0329

Jan 03, 2006 (7:52 am)

Replying to: allfiredup (Dec 31, 2005 6:56 pm)
What you must also realize in case you haven't yet is just cause the government puts it on paper doesn't mean that it is absolute truth and fact if you read into it more you will find that the accent on the highway actually gets about 40 mpg or better on the highway. Window sticker ratings for MPG are almost never accurate.

#242 of 624 Re: Wow! [lexuslover0329] by alpha01

Jan 03, 2006 (7:55 am)

Replying to: lexuslover0329 (Jan 03, 2006 7:52 am)
A good measure, in my experience, has been the standarized testing loop that CR runs for each of their full vehicle tests. Often, CR will get a lower CITY figure and a higher HWY figure than the EPA, and their overall mileage seems to be a more accurate representation of real world. Still, I've found that in mine and my parents' vehicles, we beat CR's average by about 2-3 MPG due to a heavier bias toward highway, less stop and go.
 
~alpha

#243 of 624 Re: Wow! [alpha01] by allfiredup

Jan 03, 2006 (9:45 pm)

Replying to: alpha01 (Jan 03, 2006 7:55 am)
Alpha- have you read the report about Consumer Union's (CR) comparison of all their test vehicles for the past five years or so versus those of the EPA? It's really very interesting.
 
Here's a link to it if you're interested-
 
http://www.consumersunion.org/pdf/MPG-90205.pdf
 
I used some of the results in another discussion about the Mazda3 and Honda Civic. Their tests resulting in better than EPA highway numbers in the Civic and better than EPA city numbers in the Mazda3. It's an interesting and useful comparison. I get a feeling I probably drive my car a good bit harder than they do, though.

#244 of 624 HYBRID NEWS! by agalas

Jan 08, 2006 (1:57 am)

">link titleDon't know if this is old news, but just in case you missed it.
 
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/12/hyundai_unveils.php
 
44.5 MPG for a Hybrid Accent! If CR verifies those numbers I will purchase a Hyrbid Accent over the Honda Fit and Toyota Yaris. What Toyota and Honda have done lately in terms of fuel economy is shameful. The Yaris only gets .5 mpg better than the corolla! The fit will probably get 1 mpg better than the bigger civic.
 
GODDAMN IT! When people buy sub compact econo cars they want mileage! Not speed! Not power! Mileage! Gas will soon return to $3 permenently and then anyone who gets less than 40 mpg will rue the day they bought their gas guzzling Yaris or Fit!
 
Imagine what the second generation Accent H will do! With a full strength hybrid it could pull 50 MPG and with other improvements like CVT, carbon fiber, better engines, lithium ion batteries, we could see 60 mpg.
 
The question is: what will it cost? I predict a $14,000 base price, with a nicely equipped model for $15,000 and a drive out the door price of $17,000, which is still the cheapest means of getting 45 mpg.
 
Now if only Hyndai could fix its reliability, above average, according to CR is not good enough. Hyndai needs to get into the top 3. Currently held by the Toyota Echo, Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic, with the Mazda 3 barely making it to "much better than average".
 
Thoughts?

#245 of 624 Re: HYBRID NEWS! [agalas] by backy

Jan 08, 2006 (11:29 am)

Replying to: agalas (Jan 08, 2006 1:57 am)
There is no way I see the Accent hybrid starting at $14k. The regular Accent GLS starts at $13k--and that is without A/C, power package, or automatic. Hybrids have traditionally added $3000+ of a premium for the extra technology. Also it is not clear whether the Accent hybrid will come with a stick shift or require an automatic (or CVT). I think it will be lucky for the Accent hybrid to start under $15k, and more likely will be closer to $16k. Consider too that Hyundai is not yet able to spread the costs of their hybrid development over lots of cars, like Toyota is able to do. That might bump up the "hybrid premium" even more, unless Hyundai is willing to lose lots of money on each Accent hybrid they sell.
 
Hyundai is working hard on reliability. Look at what they have done in the past five years. I think they have already "fixed" reliability to the extent it is no longer a problem. So now they can focus on matching Toyota and Honda in long-term reliability, since they have already matched or exceeded them in initial quality/reliability (per JD Power).

#246 of 624 More bad new for the Accent by backy

Jan 08, 2006 (5:55 pm)

The Honda Fit for North America was announced today. Starts at $13k including ABS, side bags/curtains, A/C, power package, and stereo. An Accent similarly equipped (but with alloys) would cost $1500 more. And the Fit is a 5-door. Luckily for Hyundai, the fuel economy on the Fit isn't much better than the Accent's.
 
The Fit is supposed to be out in April. Which is I think when we'll start seeing those big rebates from Hyundai on the Accent.

#247 of 624 Re: HYBRID NEWS! [agalas] by allfiredup

Jan 08, 2006 (6:30 pm)

Replying to: agalas (Jan 08, 2006 1:57 am)
When people buy sub compact econo cars they want mileage! Not speed! Not power! Mileage! Gas will soon return to $3 permenently and then anyone who gets less than 40 mpg will rue the day they bought their gas guzzling Yaris or Fit!
 
Have to say that I disagree with you there. Perhaps a LOT of people buying econo-cars want economy above all else, but there is a substantial population of buyers who want performance and power while still getting at least moderately good fuel economy. Almost 100,000 people have bought Mazda3s this year and its EPA ratings are definitely in the lower end of the subcompact class. FYI- I am one of that number that bought a Mazda3.
 
I think carmakers are very wise to cover the full spectrum of economy and performance with a car. Honda, for instance, has everything from the 197hp high performance Si that gets 31mpg, to the Civic LX/EX with decent performance and 40mpg, to the Hybrid that gets 51mpg highway. It's a very wise strategy.
 
I think Hyundai would be smart to bring an Accent Hybrid to the U.S., but only if they can keep the price down. A performance oriented Accent 3-door would be a good seller, too. Especially if they could milk another 15-20 hp out of it.

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