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#174 of 624 Accent vs. Versa vs. Fit vs. Yaris (Jeebus!)
Dec 13, 2005 (2:08 am)
Ok, so the Nissan Versa is first on my list, but if I want cruise control with it (a MUST if available) I would have to opt for the high end package (I would get the 5 Door) and if then I wanted an auto (must upgrade to auto to ease woes of city driving) then I would have no option except the CVT, which is great but drives the price up. Basically, if I wanted all the options the Accent has on the Versa I would end up creeping close to the 20k mark; note that I would get a lot MORE options on the Versa, such as smart card etc. but I don't necessarily want those added just to get ABS.
The fit doesn't seem to have much info about it but current speculation puts the BHP at around 95-100 with a 1.5 L, and even though the Accent only has a few more ponies, they make a big difference when an engine is paltry on the ponies to begin with.
The Yaris....don't even get me started. Outside styling (read: rear end) is bubley and awkward and the center console/instrument cluster/HVAC controls, well let's just say I like looking forward to see my speed and I don't know why Toyota didn't opt to spend the extra couple hundred dollars and make a left and right hand drive with left and right hand inst. clusters instead of making it a "uni-continental" car. Plus the price point for the brand, the less than fabulous warranty (compared to Hyundai) and the not so peppy engines found in lower displacement Toyotas (from my own experience, not from fact).
So leaves me with few cars in my price range that are competetive with the 2006 Accent. I do wish that I could order cruise with the Accent (speculated to not be available) so that's a bummer. I am actually thinking that the Elantra may be the better buy in summer 06 because of the "get outta here, we have new toys a-comin'" sales to liquidate for the new generation, which I have heard may be powered by the new World Engine from GEMA, developed by Hyundai, DCX and Mitsubishi (heard from a friend of a friend of a friend who grooms the dog who lives with the flatmate of a girl I met on the subway).
#175 of 624 Re: Accent vs. Versa vs. Fit vs. Yaris (Jeebus!) [snakey]
Dec 13, 2005 (9:48 am)
"The fit doesn't seem to have much info about it but current speculation puts the BHP at around 95-100 with a 1.5 L, and even though the Accent only has a few more ponies, they make a big difference when an engine is paltry on the ponies to begin with. "
Also, granted the test is dated, and new competitors exist (most notably, the Civic and 3), but for a "lower-displacement" Toyota, the Corolla was the quickest in a Ten vehicle C/D comparo of 2003 models in Nov 02. (That includes the current Elantra, and likely the Spectra givent the shared powertrain).
It probably doesnt matter much to you, but in my experience Honda vehicles with similar power ratings to those vehicles from competing manufacturers have always felt stronger to me, through the seat of the pants. Honda typically does a great job with power and efficiency as well, something that can't be said of the Accent's 1.6L- its fuel efficiency is bested by the new Civic's 1.8L, for example, which puts out 30 more horses. (And the Civic's power ratings are SAE certified, not sure about the Accents).
A loaded manual Accent at $14,495(MSRP) seems like a smart buy, I just think its much uglier (cartoonish in that ECHO type way) than its relative Rio.
#176 of 624 Re: Accent vs. Versa vs. Fit vs. Yaris (Jeebus!) [alpha01]
Dec 13, 2005 (12:02 pm)
It's beyond me how you can even think of comparing the smooth lines of the new Accent to the ECHO's. There isn't anything remotely similar. Well, ok, they both have four doors and wheels.
#177 of 624 Re: Accent vs. Versa vs. Fit vs. Yaris (Jeebus!) [backy]
Dec 13, 2005 (1:11 pm)
The new Accent, due to its nose, tail, and general shape, looks to me as though 100 clowns should climb out of it, just as the ECHO did, and very much unlike how the Rio doesnt.
#178 of 624 Re: Accent vs. Versa vs. Fit vs. Yaris (Jeebus!) [alpha01]
Dec 13, 2005 (1:24 pm)
Yes, the Accent is quite roomy for its size, isn't it?
#179 of 624 Not that I don't like Toyota but...
Dec 13, 2005 (1:53 pm)
Alpha, the basic point of my post is that if you are looking for a car that can stay under 17K with all the amenities of the Accent then you are almost out of luck. Honda does produce good engines, I love my fiance's 87 civic, it feels like it scoots up a lot faster than my 98 sentra, but part of it is because of a stiffer suspension so there is less rear end squat on acceleration and nose dive on brake, and the fact that Honda is great with keeping their small cars light and you sit considerably lower to the ground in the civic.
As far as Toyota I have been test driving Corollas every year since 2000 and while they may be rated for more HP or test to be quicker, they lumber along compared to the Civic. The handling is muddy and the braking is never as good.
I like Honda and Toyota (with the exception of the ECHO and the Yaris) but you can't get the same comparable options from them for what you load up the Accent with, not to mention you don't get the 10/100k waranty that tags along with the Accent.
Finally for styling, the only portion of the Accent that is ECHO-like remotely is the back end, which I am not too fond of, but being that I don't ever folow me while I drive I don't much mind. Also consider that I drive that 98 sentra with that disgusting rear as is. The Rio has better body lines but you can't get it without those retarded non-color keyed side moldings. Those remind me of non-color keyed bumpers you get with older econo-boxes, the kind that turn gray after 5 years in the sun.
So once again, through economic restraint and personal opinion of stlye and want for creature comforts I am confortably arrived again at the Accent. It's not that I wouldn't like a new Civic but I can't afford 21K to get one with the options I would like, nor can I get the Versa how I would like with all my requested options under the 20K, nor the Dodge Caliber (build-a-caliber site is up at dodge.com). I CAN however get everything I want (sans cruise) for under 17K with the Accent.
Dec 13, 2005 (2:18 pm)
gotten used to those side moldings on the new Rio. Kia has made them thick and slightly slanted so that they actually are part of the design down the side-sleek from a sharp ange in the front looking back, and I like them.
Now, whether or not the sun will turn them another color (gray) in 5 years or not is a moot point with me-I trade in for another new Kia in 2-5 years anyway.
It is still so nice to have the Hyundai/Kia 100,000 mile Long-Haul Warranty on the powertrain. A bumper-to-bumper Warrranty of 5 years and 60,000 miles remains the industry standard and so very cool to have on your side as a car owner, too.
#181 of 624 Re: Accent vs. Versa vs. Fit vs. Yaris (Jeebus!) [alpha01]
Dec 13, 2005 (8:17 pm)
It's interesting that you say that about Hondas feeling stronger to you that cars with similar power ratings. A reviewer in one of the major car mags noted that Honda horsepower is a lot like BMW horsepower- the numbers alone just don't tell the story. I tend to agree.
#182 of 624 Re: Not that I don't like Toyota but... [snakey]
Dec 13, 2005 (8:21 pm)
With regard to wanting cruise in the Accent, I had a two different dealers on here tell me that they offer very good aftermarket systems for the current Accent. So, if you really wanted it, it is possible to install.
My bet is that at least the Honda Fit will have it on most models. Probably all but a base (DX?) will have it. It is odd that Hyundai and Kia don't offer it at all but offer most other convenience items, but there must be some rationale for it. Perhaps they weren't wanting to offer EVERY feature of their larger cars.
#183 of 624 Re: Not that I don't like Toyota but... [snakey]
Dec 13, 2005 (8:42 pm)
Thanks for the heads up about the Dodge Caliber. I went to the Dodge site and played with it. I love it. If only it weren't made by DCX.
The powertrain options are very interesting. Upgrading from the 1.8L to the 2.0L in SE/SXT is only $50. Amazingly, they're also offering the 2.0L turbodiesel, but it costs $4420! Still, I'm glad to see the diesel option. They're also showing 4-speed automatic, CVT and CVT w/Autostick.
This is all preliminary, but maybe they actually will offer it all. Who knows? Great looking, too...just starts getting pricey once you option it up.